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Karab 98 b 458 Win Mag?
29 November 2020, 18:38
jerry mcdonaldKarab 98 b 458 Win Mag?
A couple years ago I bought a Karab 98 b barreled action in 458 Win Mag, the 24 inch barrel is a rather light contour, had my 'Smith full length bed everything in a synthetic stock, has an aftermarket trigger and bolt, stock Mauser safety, slide open bottom metal with exposed button, it wears a 3X Leupold in Leupold short lever QD rings.
Question is, I cant find any info online about the action, strength or usefulness for such a high pressure round, anyone know if these things are safe to use? the rifle weighs 9.25 lbs all up, so it's going to be a bucker.
29 November 2020, 20:09
z1rIf I had a Kar 98 based sporter ,I'd limit the pressures to about 45 KPSI. In your case, you could probably use higher pressure 45-70 data in your larger WM case.
Aut vincere aut mori
29 November 2020, 20:16
hogfarmerquote:
Originally posted by z1r:
If I had a Kar 98 based sporter ,I'd limit the pressures to about 45 KPSI. In your case, you could probably use higher pressure 45-70 data in your larger WM case.
Yep, large ring tenon in a small ring action leaves very little steel in the front ring.
"For they have sown the wind, and they shall reap the whirlwind..."
Hosea 8:7
29 November 2020, 21:37
jerry mcdonaldWell dang, Thanks Men, I don't remember buying a small ring syn stock, if what you guys say pans out, I guess it'd be a great hog gun running 350gr Hornadys to 2150 fps, would have to get a 'Smith stamp the side of the barrel with "350 Grain Max", and maybe the RL-7 load recipe.
29 November 2020, 21:44
dpcdHold the Phone!
Look at the markings on your receiver. If it says, Karab 98b, then it is a large ring. Your post says Karab.
All the small rings are either Kar 98 or K98 for the Polish made ones. BTW, someone butchered a very rare Mauser if it is/was a 98b. Turned a $2000 rifle into a $500 one.
If it is a small ring, then do what they said above. Or I will sell you a large ring receiver; I have a ton of them.
29 November 2020, 22:15
hogfarmerquote:
Originally posted by jerry mcdonald:
Well dang, Thanks Men, I don't remember buying a small ring syn stock, if what you guys say pans out, I guess it'd be a great hog gun running 350gr Hornadys to 2150 fps, would have to get a 'Smith stamp the side of the barrel with "350 Grain Max", and maybe the RL-7 load recipe.
The WWI Kar 98 is standard 98 length but a small ring, so, as Tom said, it will fit into a 98 stock. To be technical, the military trigger is slightly different from a Gew 98 military trigger, but only a small difference.
"For they have sown the wind, and they shall reap the whirlwind..."
Hosea 8:7
29 November 2020, 22:20
dpcdRead my post; based on your title, you have a large ring 98. If so, drive on with any loads you like.
29 November 2020, 22:37
jerry mcdonaldGood stuff! Thanks Men, in that case, i'll pour a half pound of lead shot in the forearm and butt, have the stock painted a nice blue/black/purple "camo bruise pattern"
500 grains at 2150 will still rock plenty good in a 10.25 pound rifle.
29 November 2020, 22:42
z1rquote:
Originally posted by dpcd:
Read my post; based on your title, you have a large ring 98. If so, drive on with any loads you like.
Early morning pre-coffee, b looked like an a to me. As Tom says, if it's a Large Ring, you are good to go.
Aut vincere aut mori
29 November 2020, 23:02
dpcdAnd I don't drink coffee, so morning, noon, or night, my head is cloudy all the time.
30 November 2020, 19:09
jerry mcdonaldGot the rifle in question out this morning, it feeds and ejects perfectly, the loads for my old FN Browning Safari 458 are 450gr TSX and BBW #13 solids, and 500gr PP Woodleighs and Partitions, it ate them all just fine, get a little paperwork out of the way and i'll put it on the bench and see how it shoots.
All metal is midnight blue cerakote, including the 3X Leupold with #4 heavy German reticle, it'd make someone a fine Alaskan all game hunting rifle.