Mannlicher Bolt Handle

21 July 2016, 21:27

speerchucker30x378

When I had a TIG I used to make them in batches of 10 in the mill. I'm just going from memory here. I rounded the end of a piece of 1144 9/16 round in the lathe with a forming tool. Then the bar went into the dividing head with a 1/2 inch end mill for a side cut on the mill. I went passed the round about 1 inch and drove the side of the mill in about .200 and made a cut along the length. Then I pulled out the tool and went back to the 1 inch past the rounded end, rotated the head (about that much) and took another slice to create the top of the handle. Then I flipped it over and took a slab cut off the bottom (of about that much). Then I parted them in the saw and the bar went back to the lathe to recut the round for the next one. They looked, well they looked OK. Like any other silly butterknife bolt handle. It took about 10 minutes each once I got rolling.

It seems to me that I used a crotch center in the tailstock of the dividing head so I could do the cuts in one pass with no chatter.

When I was a kid. I had the stick. I had the rock. And I had the mud puddle. I am as adept with them today, as I was back then. Lets see today's kids say that about their IPods, IPads and XBoxes in 45 years!
Rod Henrickson

21 July 2016, 23:25

dpcd

I know how to make them;; I just don't want to. Why don't you make me a few in your spare time?

21 July 2016, 23:29

speerchucker30x378

Now now. You have to look at it the same way I look at muzzle brakes. I can buy them for $50 American and charge the customer $60 and make $10. Or I can make them and charge the customer $60 and make $60. LOL

Of course that doesn't mean that you actually have to LIKE making them!

22 July 2016, 01:06

Idaho Sharpshooter

have you checked with NECG?

22 July 2016, 01:29

dpcd

They don't.
I will follow Speer's advice.

22 July 2016, 02:48

speerchucker30x378

quote:
Originally posted by dpcd:
They don't.
I will follow Speer's advice.

The thought of giving some other gunsmith $40, when you can make them in 10 minutes came back and slapped you right in the face like a boomerang fish didn't it?

I'm such a prick!

Don Markley is obviously making them exactly the same way I was. Except, I leave a small .100 wide flat between the two angles and I cut a flat on the bottom. I also never bothered to taper the sides. (to lazy) Now that I think of it I did make some by angling the dividing head about 3 or 4 degrees so the handle did come out tapered. But I didn't cut the profile in with the lathe as he has done.

http://www.sporterizing.com/index.php?showtopic=9495

22 July 2016, 03:07

Bill/Oregon

Those Markley handles are really lovely.

22 July 2016, 03:23

dpcd

Yes, you are a prick, but in this case, your advice is valid.
And Bill, yes, the Markeys are nice.I do make the top of the angle angle sharp like his.

22 July 2016, 04:38

speerchucker30x378

quote:
Originally posted by dpcd:
Yes, you are a prick, but in this case, your advice is valid.
And Bill, yes, the Markeys are nice.I do make the top of the angle angle sharp like his.

I don't. I make a small .100 or .050 flat all the way down where he has the sharp V edge. But I'm not only a prick, I'm also a prick that has no taste when it comes to fine, European styling.

LOL

22 July 2016, 04:45

Idaho Sharpshooter

Speer,

I can remember before the person behind the counter had a computer to hide behind...

22 July 2016, 04:52

speerchucker30x378

quote:
Originally posted by Idaho Sharpshooter:
Speer,

I can remember before the person behind the counter had a computer to hide behind...

Oh oh. Playing the old guy card against me can get mighty expensive Idaho Sharpshooter ! Don't make me pull out my expired patents on (The Rock) and the (Pointy Stick). LOL

22 July 2016, 06:30

Don Markey

quote:
Originally posted by dpcd:
Yes, you are a prick, but in this case, your advice is valid.
And Bill, yes, the Markeys are nice.I do make the top of the angle angle sharp like his.

I have two left if you need them. Might be able to find another one.
Don

22 July 2016, 09:27

Nakihunter

I got one about 15 years ago from Brownels - it was a regular stock item then. Not sure if they still carry it.

I put it on my 1930 Greek Mannlicher conversion - basically a 1903 6.5X54MS with 20 inch barrel.

22 July 2016, 20:49

dpcd

Brownells does not carry them, nor does Midway.

22 July 2016, 21:04

speerchucker30x378

Make a couple hundred of them and sell the excess 199 to Midway and Brownells dpcd. Then you can just buy them back from them at a highly inflated price! he he he

22 July 2016, 21:09

D Humbarger

quote:
Originally posted by speerchucker30x378:
Now now. You have to look at it the same way I look at muzzle brakes. I can buy them for $50 American and charge the customer $60 and make $10. Or I can make them and charge the customer $60 and make $60. LOL

Of course that doesn't mean that you actually have to LIKE making them!

22 July 2016, 22:30

speerchucker30x378

I NO LONGER CARE ABOUT ANYTHING ELSE IN THIS WORLD !

It has become my life's ambition and work to guilt dpcd into making those bolt handles.

he he he

23 July 2016, 03:48

manhasset

There was a gentleman Steve Hines, Meier Works of Canyon Tx who made three different types a M-S copy, Brno copy and a Butterball copy of the current Steyr knob. Think he might have moved to New Mexico and lost track of him.
Bob

23 July 2016, 05:10

Bobster

dpcd you have a PM

23 July 2016, 05:52

dpcd

Thanks;.
I am going to mill them out so Speer will shut up.

23 July 2016, 19:31

speerchucker30x378

quote:
Originally posted by dpcd:
Thanks;.
I am going to mill them out so Speer will shut up.

Some people pay hundreds, sometimes thousands of dollars and they go to those motivational speakers who tell them that they're pretty and productive and to set down goals, use multi point progress systems and subtle rewards for goal accomplishments. I can achieve all of that shit for free just by being highly fawking annoying ! How do you think my ex wives got me to do anything around the house? I'm not the sharpest tack in the box, but I do pick up on what works.

23 July 2016, 22:27

dpcd

That's funny. I had to leave my ex wives before they killed me.

23 July 2016, 22:45

speerchucker30x378

quote:
Originally posted by dpcd:
That's funny. I had to leave my ex wives before they killed me.

HAH. You had to leave yours ! ! ! !
One of mine is deceased. One lives in Johannesburg South Africa and I believe the other lives somewhere in Georgia USA. Mine would leave the PLANET, to get away from me !

LOL

23 July 2016, 22:48

Idaho Sharpshooter

gosh, I did not know you were LDS...

23 July 2016, 23:09

speerchucker30x378

quote:
Originally posted by Idaho Sharpshooter:
gosh, I did not know you were LDS...

Nupe, not Mormon Idaho Sharpshooter. We Danes only pretended to become Christians so we could learn the locations of new churches to loot. But we gave up raping, pillaging and burning hundreds of years ago. Far to much work !