Installing model 70 type trigger into mauser

11 September 2013, 00:42

ssdave

Installing model 70 type trigger into mauser - problem

I posted in the classified but thought I would also post here.

I'm trying to fit a model 70 type trigger to a mauser 98. Installed in combination with the Recknagel model 70 type safety, the notched bottom military cocking piece allows the trigger to reset and lock up the bolt after firing. Replacing it with a flat bottom commercial type cocking piece will fix the problem.

Anybody have one for sale?

Any other ideas other than welding up the cocking piece and re-heat treating it?

If I put in an original style bolt shroud, the cocking piece falls about .030 further back, and the trigger doesn't fall into the notch and reset, so it works. I've thought about putting a thin washer on the firing pin in front of the cocking piece, but that will decrease the firing pin protrusion. I haven't measured to see if it would still work.

The problem is apparently caused by the length of the 3 position safety shroud allowing the firing pin and cocking piece to go too far forward.

Thanks,
dave

11 September 2013, 01:51

Don Markey

quote:
Originally posted by ssdave:
I posted in the classified but thought I would also post here.

I'm trying to fit a model 70 type trigger to a mauser 98. Installed in combination with the Recknagel model 70 type safety, the notched bottom military cocking piece allows the trigger to reset and lock up the bolt after firing. Replacing it with a flat bottom commercial type cocking piece will fix the problem.

Anybody have one for sale?

Any other ideas other than welding up the cocking piece and re-heat treating it?

If I put in an original style bolt shroud, the cocking piece falls about .030 further back, and the trigger doesn't fall into the notch and reset, so it works. I've thought about putting a thin washer on the firing pin in front of the cocking piece, but that will decrease the firing pin protrusion. I haven't measured to see if it would still work.

The problem is apparently caused by the length of the 3 position safety shroud allowing the firing pin and cocking piece to go too far forward.

Thanks,
dave

Dave I have some with the flat bottom.
Don

11 September 2013, 08:36

ssdave

Don,

Replied to your PM. Thanks!

02 October 2013, 19:25

2Barrels

quote:
Originally posted by ssdave:
Installed in combination with the Recknagel model 70 type safety, the notched bottom military cocking piece allows the trigger to reset and lock up the bolt after firing. Replacing it with a flat bottom commercial type cocking piece will fix the problem.

Had the same issue when I installed a Timney trigger in a Whitworth American express - notched vs flat bottom cocking piece. Never was able to locate a flat cocking piece. Finally contacted Timney and they provided me the correct P/N for the unit to be used with the notched cocking piece.

Bottom line here is that the M98 cocking pieces can cause a number of issues.

02 October 2013, 22:10

ssdave

Thanks to Don, I have this together and working. The sporter cocking pieces have a different notch width than the military, so had to take a bit of metal off of the notched areas of the pin to get it to fit. Once fit to the new cocking piece, the whole thing worked flawlessly.

Thanks, Don!

03 October 2013, 06:12

Rockdoc

Are these a better alternative to modifying the existing trigger?

I have two mauser actioned rifles with modified triggers, one original magnum mauser (by H&H) and one an '09 action. They seem ok and i guess the H&H has lasted a 100yrs but if there is a better alternative for my current build i will have it done.

Cheers, Chris

03 October 2013, 09:08

ssdave

Really not better, just the last step in a long term learning project I started working on in the 80's. It's had everything else done to it, I got a couple of these triggers for a decent price, so put one of them on it.

I don't think that an original military 2 stage adjusted for less engagement is really inferior.

Just no prestige to a military trigger.
dave

03 October 2013, 19:42

Dennis Earl Smith

Paul and Sharon Dressel are marketing a Mauser 98 Model 70 style trigger. FWIW

03 October 2013, 23:17

kda55

So is Alaska Arms.

04 October 2013, 05:35

ssdave

Same trigger, business arrangement between them.

dave

07 October 2013, 03:06

Don Markey

Glad it worked for you Dave. I fit two of those triggers up so far and never needed a flat cp though. Could be the layout of your cuts for the safety. I will have to remember that if I come across the same issue.
Don