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09 October 2012, 08:17
akalinin
What kind of stock stain is this?
Type A Oberndorf Mauser in 9.3x62. What kind of stain gives a stock a color like this?

09 October 2012, 09:02
Von Gruff
Mahogany??


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09 October 2012, 14:57
Rub Line
Alkanet root, it's a dye.


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09 October 2012, 15:48
shootaway
I think there are times that the alkanet root makes the project turn out nice and other times it doesn`t.I feel that it is used successfully in the above blank were the blank is originally rich in color and the red dye is filling in the faint light spots.I don`t think it works well when it is used on a colorless or very light blank.It make the rifle look like an orange,IMO.
09 October 2012, 19:14
Aaron Little
My guess is alkanet root and lots of aging. The darkness because linsead oil darkens as it ages.


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09 October 2012, 19:15
Aaron Little
Actual staining in stockwork is the devil.


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10 October 2012, 02:12
akalinin
quote:
Originally posted by shootaway:
I think there are times that the alkanet root makes the project turn out nice and other times it doesn`t.I feel that it is used successfully in the above blank were the blank is originally rich in color and the red dye is filling in the faint light spots.I don`t think it works well when it is used on a colorless or very light blank.It make the rifle look like an orange,IMO.


So you're saying that this was probably a premium piece of wood even before it was stained?

I want my next custom rifle to have wood that is very close to this. It is very appealing to the eye!
10 October 2012, 04:18
shootaway
No,it doesn`t look premium it is just dark to start off with.
14 October 2012, 03:58
Jerry Liles
Looks like decades of oxidized linseed oil, perhaps with a bit of alkanet staining.
14 October 2012, 21:59
shootaway
Here is a pic of a stock that I believe has the look you are after.I would contact this fellow if I wanted a similar stock.Here is someone that has proof that he can do it.I`ve seen many custom rifles from all kinds of builders that cannot accomplish this or for whatever reason have not turned out such a stock. [URL= ]stock[/URL]
14 October 2012, 23:01
Aaron Little
The main determining factor on the stock color comes down to the wood. If you want a dark and red stock start with a dark stock with reds in it. Its best to never rely on stains or tints to give me what you want.


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15 October 2012, 00:00
shootaway
quote:
Originally posted by Aaron Little:
The main determining factor on the stock color comes down to the wood. If you want a dark and red stock start with a dark stock with reds in it. I never rely on stains or tints to give me what I want.
I used to think that there were blanks with different natural tints in them but I heard that once they are put into the process of making a stock they all have a similar neutral dull or ``white`` like color,except for the mineral streaks.IMO,they can be thought of as ``black and white``.The only thing that darkens them is the amount of mineral content in the wood.IMO,if they show a color then that is from the staining caused by the stuff in the oils used treat the stock.If I remember correctly the blank used to make the stock I pictured above was from the Luxus website.There was no red in the blank when I saw it there.
15 October 2012, 08:23
Aaron Little
I just build them...but some stocks have prominant different colors in them(imo) that have nothing to do with the finish applied.


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