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"Take-up" when barrel is tightened

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26 March 2005, 07:01
TCLouis
"Take-up" when barrel is tightened
How many thousandths does a Mauser mod 98 barrel "take-up when tightend from contact with shoulder to fulley tightened??
Or to look at it another way, typically what part of 360 degrees will it take to accomplish?



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26 March 2005, 07:58
M Pursell
"Or to look at it another way, typically what part of 360 degrees will it take to accomplish?"

Not much. A 1-12 thread has a pitch of .083, that's how far it moves each turn (1/12). You normally figure .002 crush, "contact to fully tightened".

.083/.002=41.5

Divide the 360 degree circle by 41.5 and you come up with 8.67 degrees. Not much.

Or you could figure it by distance on the circumference of the barrel, 2 x pi x radius.
Figuring a barrel diameter at the action of 1.2" , you get a circumference of 3.77" . Divide that by 41.5 = .090 . If you draw a line connecting the action and the barrel when contact is first made, at .002 crush the lines would be .090 apart.

The only time I go through all this mental gymnastics is when I'm trying to clock in a barrel that has sights or letters that I want to come out right. If you're putting on a new barrel, make contact with the shoulder, then give the action wrench a solid whack with the palm of your hand. Then say, "there, .002 crush".


Mark Pursell
26 March 2005, 16:00
D Humbarger
quote:
The only time I go through all this mental gymnastics is when I'm trying to clock in a barrel that has sights or letters


Or timing flutes. Wink



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27 March 2005, 06:19
TCLouis
Thanx, the 0.002" crush is the number I was going for. Figured I would get the number direct or by calculating the way you did if someone gve me the approximate amount the barrel turned.
I have a barrel I need to fit and since it closes on a no go, I can see at least 5-7 thousands coming off. Maybe a bit more and then treat it like it was short chambered and cutting the last little bit out (again).



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27 March 2005, 16:59
M Pursell
I'd figure out how much over it is by putting masking tape on the back of the no-go. Measure the thickness of the tape by taking a piece, folding the sticky to the inside, measure the doubled piece, then divide by 2. It should be in the range of .004-.0045 for a single piece. Keep adding tape until the no-go is a no go. Adding that many pieces plus 1-2 more to the go gauge should keep it from closing. That works as a good double check.

That method gives you a number to cut to instead of guessing, cutting & checking. That method works too but has a significantly higher sphinctor factor.

If you do this carefully, you should be able to hit it on the nose. No reamer work necessary.


Mark Pursell
27 March 2005, 19:24
Rick 0311
Mark,

I just noticed that you are in Liberty, Mo.

I did a movie there years ago and it is one of the prettiest places I have ever been...and with some of the nicest people you will ever meet.

I envy you!

Rick
28 March 2005, 18:56
Dutch
Might also want to contemplate that some barrels seat from firing a thou or two, as well. FWIW, Dutch.


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28 March 2005, 23:23
M Pursell
quote:
Originally posted by Rick 0311:
Mark,

I just noticed that you are in Liberty, Mo.

I did a movie there years ago and it is one of the prettiest places I have ever been...and with some of the nicest people you will ever meet.

I envy you!

Rick


Just don't tell anyone. It's already getting crowded around here. I live about 5 miles outside of town. No need to move to town, it's moving to me.


Mark Pursell
29 March 2005, 06:24
bisonland
My 2 cents worth...the 2 thousands figure is correct...also using tape on the no go is good...
I use tape that is 4 thousands...try one layer,
then another. Smiler
Best Regards, Tom