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M99 Re-line?

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29 April 2007, 23:10
Brice
M99 Re-line?
I have a M99 take-down in 250-3000, made in the forties. It was a beat-up orphan, and I took pity on it, did a resto, but not historically perfect. Then I discovered that it has a twist of about 1:20 or something like that, and will not stabilize a decent hunting bullet.

Question: What do you think of relining it? Who might do it? I don't want to bore it out and rifle to a larger caliber.

All suggestions appreciated.
30 April 2007, 02:49
craigster
Savage used a 10" twist for the 250-3000 in the M99. If your rifle won't stabilze "a decent hunting bullet", I'm gonna have to say you've got a problem with the barrel other than the rate of twist. How did you determine it has a 1 in 20 twist?
30 April 2007, 03:02
congomike
One suggestion...check the crown and the last 1/4" or so of rifling at the muzzle. My high school hunting buddy had an early 250-3000 that was very accurate. Over the years he started getting worse and worse groups, followed by keyholing. He cut 1/2" off the muzzle, recrowned it and it was back to like new. Just a thought.
30 April 2007, 03:22
craigster
You say the rifle won't stabilize the bullets, are they tumbling (keyholes in the target) or does it "pattern" rather than group?
30 April 2007, 04:57
stocker
1/10 twist was only used in later production. Earlier rifles had 1/14 I believe. I have never been a fan of relining for higher intensity cartridges. Re-barreling is the better option or drop your bullet weight to an 80-90 grain bullet and select one with stronger construction. They will work fine for most purposes.


stocker
30 April 2007, 13:50
DMB
Those rifles were designed for the 87 grain bullet, and a 1-14 twist will handle that weight bullet.
If it were mine, I would want it as original as it could be, as you did with your restoration. Don't reline the barrel. Shoot the lighter weight bullets.

Don




30 April 2007, 17:38
Brent
Call Dave Casey in Cody Wyoming. If that rifle is relinable, he will know. He does relining a bit different than most other folks. He owns
www.rockymountaincartridge.com

Brent


When there is lead in the air, there is hope in my heart -- MWH ~1996
30 April 2007, 21:58
Brice
Thank you all for the help. Yes, it is 1:14 twist. All 100 grain bullets I've tried have evidenced yaw, as in elongated holes in the target. I really don't have much confidence in the 87-90 grain bullets available. I would use this rifle for good sized deer, often at ranges of 3-400 yds, so sectional density is important.

If I reline it, it would be for same caliber. I will contact RMC.
01 May 2007, 04:04
ole_270
Mine does real well with the 87 Speer Hot Core. It's not a really sharp spire point, so is shorter for it's length than many others. I've killed a few whitetails with it up to 200 yards with no trouble at all. Doubt I would try one at 400 though, even with a 100 gr. bullet.
01 May 2007, 04:29
Brice
Thanks Ole. Are you related to LRH270? He posts rotten jokes in the humor forum.
01 May 2007, 13:52
vigillinus
Dennis Olsen, a very capable gunsmith, relines high power barrels. He has done at least one .30-40 Krag military barrel. You can call him at 406-826-3790 in Plains, MT. He is doing different work on a Remington 30 for me now. He will be able to tell you if the 99 barrel is thick enough for a liner.