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14 May 2005, 21:22
Enigma
To crossbolt or not to crossbolt, that is the question...
Hello fellow shooter, hunters,

I decided that I was going to order a Boyds JRS laminate rifle stock for my Winchester Model 70 classic stainless in 375 H&H. I did like many of you told me and that is to do a search on the AR forums to get more information on them. I am now convinced that they make great stocks but I still have a few unanswered questions to ask.

1) Is it necessary to pillar bed a laminate stock. I read on a few discussions that it is a big no no to pillar bed a laminate on magnums and that the guys who did so on Remington laminates cracked them... is this true?

2) Is it necessary to add a crossbolt behind the recoil lug on my Win? I read that Remingtons and Winchesters have a big enough recoil lug and enough wood behind it that a crossbolt would not be necessary. Is this also true?

3) In the case I need to add a crossbolt, can I add one myself or is it a better idea to bring it to a gunsmith?

Thanks again for your precious help.

Best Regards,

Enigma
15 May 2005, 02:17
D Humbarger
A 375 in a laminate stock needs crossbolts fore and aft in my opinion.



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15 May 2005, 11:13
McCray
I'd crossbolt it.

If you are at all handy with tools you can probably handle the task. Just lock the kids in the basement and send the wife to the mall,(or vice-versa) and take your time. Cool

Brownells sells a jig that might be useful.

Good luck!


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15 May 2005, 18:23
vapodog
quote:
1) Is it necessary to pillar bed a laminate stock. I read on a few discussions that it is a big no no to pillar bed a laminate on magnums and that the guys who did so on Remington laminates cracked them... is this true?


Personally, I'd fiull length glass bed it only.

quote:
2) Is it necessary to add a crossbolt behind the recoil lug on my Win? I read that Remingtons and Winchesters have a big enough recoil lug and enough wood behind it that a crossbolt would not be necessary. Is this also true?

I don't believe crossbolts are needed if it's properly glass bedded.

quote:
3) In the case I need to add a crossbolt, can I add one myself or is it a better idea to bring it to a gunsmith?

IMO the tool to install a crossbolt is something most home hobbyists don't have. In order to get a good fit and a counterbore concentric to the opposite side I mill the holes in the stock.

While I seriously doubt that crossbolts on a .375 and laminated stock is not necessary if it's properly glass bedded, if it was mine there would be crossbolts added fore and aft. The stock full length glass bedded to the barreled action and then the barrel channel slightly relieved to provise a very slim gap for a free floating barrel


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15 May 2005, 19:11
tiggertate
375 may be borderline in needing crossbolts in a solid wood stock but laminates split easier than solid wood. I'd cross bolt it.


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15 May 2005, 20:10
JD
Crossbolt it, or you'll wish you had.


JD
15 May 2005, 20:49
Marc_Stokeld
I have repaired stocks that de-laminated in calibers much smaller than .375. I would defintiely bolt and glass bed this one.

I prefer internal cross bolts, as used and described by Jack Lott. WHen I do external cross bolts, I don't use a jig. I line up two centers in my mill and drill to the pre-measured locations.
15 May 2005, 22:26
Atkinson
I would get a Brockman laminate drop in or you finish, they come cross bolted...and the design is excellent.


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16 May 2005, 07:42
Roland1
Crossbolt and glass bed.
Roland