LaPour Safety

06 October 2006, 01:54

Schrodinger's Cat

LaPour Safety

For others that may be looking into a three position safety, I thought I should post as to my recent purchase. I purchased one of Ed LaPour's three position safeties. I have to say that I have never seen such a fine safety, and I mean ever. The safety is perfectly machined and the clicks when you move the safety are precise and make a nice metallic sound at each indent. Actually, they have the same character as a fine Swiss watch. Just my observations and for what it is worth.

06 October 2006, 06:18

Don Markey

Thanks, good to hear. I was thinking of ordering one for a 1917. What action was it for?
-Don

06 October 2006, 07:04

butchlambert

I have one on my CZ550, one on my Banner Mauser, and one on my Mexican. I think that they work great.
Butch

06 October 2006, 18:18

Jim Kobe

Anyone that has worked on a Dakota, Gentry or Ed Lapour safety, (me) knows that the ONLY way to go is with Ed's. They flat out work and don't need a buch of work to get to work correctly.

07 October 2006, 17:06

Don Markey

quote:
Originally posted by Jim Kobe:
Anyone that has worked on a Dakota, Gentry or Ed Lapour safety, (me) knows that the ONLY way to go is with Ed's. They flat out work and don't need a buch of work to get to work correctly.

Thanks Jim, you made my decision for me.
-Don

07 October 2006, 21:13

22WRF

They might work well. No argument with that. But nobody should think that there isn't a bit of work in installing every single brand of 3 position safety out there. You still have to bevel the cocking piece and you still have to very precisely drill a half hole in the bolt for the 3rd position locking rod (or whatever else you want to call it.) I have owned a rifle that had a PM safety and one with a Dakota safety and both worked very well indeed.
There are those who will say that this safety or that safety are no good becasue they are hard to fit. I have been told by a very prominent riflesmith that many times its just because of the variation in the threads as made by the different companies that made mausers.

07 October 2006, 21:30

Don Markey

quote:
Originally posted by 22WRF:
They might work well. No argument with that. But nobody should think that there isn't a bit of work in installing every single brand of 3 position safety out there. You still have to bevel the cocking piece and you still have to very precisely drill a half hole in the bolt for the 3rd position locking rod (or whatever else you want to call it.) I have owned a rifle that had a PM safety and one with a Dakota safety and both worked very well indeed.
There are those who will say that this safety or that safety are no good becasue they are hard to fit. I have been told by a very prominent riflesmith that many times its just because of the variation in the threads as made by the different companies that made mausers.

True, even the fitting insturtions that come with lapour's safeties say you may have to lap the threads an show where you have to grind, stone and/or drill deending on the model. Has anyone used his 1917 kit?
-Don
-Don

07 October 2006, 21:32

Poleax

quote:
Originally posted by 22WRF:
I have been told by a very prominent riflesmith that many times its just because of the variation in the threads as made by the different companies that made mausers.

Thomas told you that did he?

You want the thread to be oversized so you can fit them. The tighter the fit the better the safety works. The shroud should turn freely when properly fitted but no so as to have slop.

07 October 2006, 22:32

22WRF

One other thing you have to be careful with and that is that sometimes they turn on farther than the military one. Its just a couple thousands or so, but its enough to screw up your bolt stroke. I don't know how to fix that.

Poleax

No, it wasn't Thomas. Maybe it was you. I have a couple of the safeties that Jeffe was selling here and they screw right one to a 1909 action with no fitting whatsoever but they are not sloppy and I am sure they would work well after the grinding and drilling gets done.

07 October 2006, 22:53

ElCaballero

quote:
Originally posted by 22WRF:
I have a couple of the safeties that Jeffe was selling here and they screw right one to a 1909 action with no fitting whatsoever but they are not sloppy and I am sure they would work well after the grinding and drilling gets done.

I have three of Jeff's also. And I am assuming one more on its way? The one that I have had installed works flawlessly.

Who made those by the way?

07 October 2006, 23:02

22WRF

I always thought Jeffe made them.

07 October 2006, 23:04

ElCaballero

quote:
Originally posted by 22WRF:
I always thought Jeffe made them.

I figured he stole them!

07 October 2006, 23:25

butchlambert

Sure he stole them!
Butch

08 October 2006, 03:55

Head Trauma

I just got my CZ 416 Rigby back, I had Ed install the 3 position saftey. Looks great, works very nicely, a nice upgrade.

08 October 2006, 05:43

lawndart

Head Trauma,
Did you have him re-do the bolt handle at the same time?
LD

08 October 2006, 05:44

lawndart

quote:
I have three of Jeff's also. And I am assuming one more on its way? The one that I have had installed works flawlessly.

Who made those by the way?

Sorry Wes,

I have some compromising pictures of Jeffe, so he decided to send it to me instead. I have it on good authority that those safeties were made by "some guy."

LD

08 October 2006, 05:56

ElCaballero

quote:
Originally posted by lawndart:
Sorry Wes,

I have some compromising pictures of Jeffe, so he decided to send it to me instead. I have it on good authority that those safeties were made by "some guy."

LD

Well you must be getting someone else's. I have comprimising pictures of some of his work.

"some guy" the poster or "some guy"

08 October 2006, 05:56

22WRF

Lawndart

Wes isn't getting that safety from Jeffe. He is getting it from me. But I have three more if anybody needs one.

08 October 2006, 17:30

Blackbart2

Schrodinger - thanks for sharing your experiences. I have been looking at these and had planned to give one a try.

BTW - The individual Poleax refers to also indicated to me that they were the currently the best offering on the market.

BB

08 October 2006, 18:11

Head Trauma

Lawndart, the rifle already had a M70 bolt handle on it before I sent it to Ed. What kind of CZ bolt handle upgrades does he offer?

09 October 2006, 09:31

lawndart

Send him a picture of what you want and he'll weld it up that way.

When I have him fit a safety to my CZ, I'll have him weld on a straight handle. By that time though, I'll probably just hack away at the job myself.

LD

Ed certainly has "the eye" for design and proportion.

Jeffe has "the fingers" for slipping a boxcar load of safeties out of there to Tejas. He is the "Schindler" of safeties.