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04 November 2013, 18:26
S. Texan
Model 70 issue
I have a couple Classic Model 70s with the following issue: when there is one round in the chamber and no rounds in the magazine, if I retract the bolt slowly the round will often not eject from the receiver, and just pops out of the extractor but falls back loose on top of the follower. This occurs when I have only loaded one round from the magazine or when ejecting the last round from a fully charged magazine. If I work the bolt quickly, the rounds eject briskly. And if there are one or two rounds in the magazine, the round ejects briskly. One of the rifles is a .270 WSM, the other a .260 Remington in a short action (again, both are Classics). I've tried this experiment with other Classic Model 70s and don't have this issue. Is this something I have to live with, or is there (hopefully) an adjustment that can be made to make every round eject with force, even on a slow bolt cycle.

thanks
04 November 2013, 19:07
slivers
You don't have a problem, you have a "fixed" ejector. It requires bumping the base of the fired cartridge briskly against the ejector to send the spent case out of the loading/ejector port. It works the same as a Mauser or Springfield and has no spring loaded plunger in the bolt face, like a Remington 700 has.


04 November 2013, 20:11
ramrod340
quote:
You don't have a problem, you have a "fixed" ejector. It requires bumping the base of the fired cartridge briskly against the ejector to send the spent case out of the loading/ejector port. It works the same as a Mauser or Springfield and has no spring loaded plunger in the bolt face, like a Remington 700 has.

tu2 Yep what slivers says.

Unless your rifle has a spring loaded plunger it relies on the impact with the ejector. I happen to like it makes removing brass at the bench easy. When hunting I've never had an issue with a case not ejecting. Big Grin


As usual just my $.02
Paul K
04 November 2013, 20:21
S. Texan
thanks for the replies and patience with my ignorance. Does this mean that the Model 70 rifles I have which will fling the empty cartridges out at even the slowest cycling have an ejector which protrudes farther "forward," so that the ejector engages the brass "earlier" in the bolt retrieval? Just wondering why some of my Model 70s will eject forcefully no matter how slowly I pull the bolt back (which is what I would prefer). thanks
05 November 2013, 00:59
S. Texan
I'll check the extractors on these guns. It would seem that if this were an extractor problem or a feature of the fixed ejector design, the rifle would eject all rounds the same way. But these rifles consistently exhibit this symptom only when there is only one round loaded (never when one or two rounds are in the magazine). Could the spring tension and follower impact the operation of the ejector? Again, thanks for educating me.
05 November 2013, 01:11
BaxterB
S Texan, actually not. I had a m70 that did the same as yours. The reason it was the last round that had the problem is that when there was a round still in the magazine it provided upward pressure to keep the casehead in place as compared to the side pressure from the extractor blade. When you eject slowly, does the casehead ever fall off the bolt face? Also, does the brass from that last round ever kick up and hit your scope? Mine did and it had to do with the round slipping out from under the blade a fraction of a second before hitting the ejector and changing the trajectory of the ejected brass. Used to bounce off the bottom of the scope. When they are all fitted properly it works as a system, when one thing is off is can get screwy.