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low pressure load and barrel life?
19 November 2005, 15:55
yeslow pressure load and barrel life?
Hi
If one load a 3006 to the same level as 300 savage( 150 gr@ 2600 fps and 180 gr @2400 fps) does it prolonge the barrel life significently?
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yazid
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19 November 2005, 17:13
KurtCThe part of the barrel that suffers from hot loads is usually the throat (between the chamber and the rifling).
I don't believe that any load in a .30-06 will do harm. Overbore cartridges (magnum cases with small bore bullets) are the ones that do the most damage.
The rifling in the barrel is more effected by the number of bullets that go thru it, along with using corrosive primers and just plain neglect.
19 November 2005, 21:04
vapodogquote:
Originally posted by yes:
Hi
If one load a 3006 to the same level as 300 savage( 150 gr@ 2600 fps and 180 gr @2400 fps) does it prolonge the barrel life significently?
regards
yazid
Yes this can help.....but it's not what needs to be done.
A .30-06 loaded with full bore loads will easily shoot 5,000 rounds (maybe even 10,000 rounds) before any accuracy can be observed as lost if you don't shoot the barrel hot. This is true for any modern rifle cartridge.
Loading it down helps but it's highly unlikely that anyone will ever shoot it so much as to be able to tell the difference in a lifetime. I'd guess that the average shooter don't fire his .30-06 more than 500 rounds in a lifetime.
I've never seen a .30-06 barrel burned out....only varmint barrels and they was because they shot the barrels while they was hot.....and very hot!
Load up that rifle and go hunting...forget about barrel life.......you're not going to live that long!
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19 November 2005, 21:53
yeshi vapodog
well 500 rounds per year is easily acheived by me, because i handload and shoot it in my own garden( i live in country side and made my own shooting arrangement). the problem is each time I get used to a rifle well, then it is time to rebarrel it!! the barrel erosion becomes evident by cheking the chamber. it had happened with a 222 rem brno and savage in 3030!!. it is hard to avoid a lot of shooting,but i try to keep the barrel cool.
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yazid
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19 November 2005, 22:07
stubblejumperThroat erosion does occur with the 30-06 as it does with all high powered cartridges.However it happens at a slower rate than in larger capacity more overbore cartridges.The most important factors are to not overheat the barrel and to clean the barrel properly.Probably as many barrels are ruined by improper cleaning as are are burned out.I would simply use loads that do not produce pressures exceeding the desin pressure for the cartridge and if you do eventually burn a barrel out simply have the gun rebarreled.Using very mild loads may extend barrel life but as to what extent,it is hard to predict.
20 November 2005, 00:04
El Deguelloquote:
Originally posted by yes:
Hi
If one load a 3006 to the same level as 300 savage( 150 gr@ 2600 fps and 180 gr @2400 fps) does it prolonge the barrel life significently?
regards
yazid
Yes, it would. Any load that develops significantly less that maximum pressues will improve barrel life. But as noted by folks in previous responses, the old '06 is not a notorious barrel eater!
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20 November 2005, 00:37
vapodogquote:
Originally posted by yes:
hi vapodog
well 500 rounds per year is easily acheived by me, because i handload and shoot it in my own garden( i live in country side and made my own shooting arrangement). the problem is each time I get used to a rifle well, then it is time to rebarrel it!! the barrel erosion becomes evident by cheking the chamber. it had happened with a 222 rem brno and savage in 3030!!. it is hard to avoid a lot of shooting,but i try to keep the barrel cool.
regards
yazid
If you shoot that much maybe you might benefit from a stainless barrel.
Next time you rebarrel use a stainless blank...it should shoot a little longer and won't cost anything to reblue.
Actually the stainless barrel looks good on a blued action.
I'm not sure but suspect the stainless barrel may increase life by as much as 20% or more.
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20 November 2005, 02:38
yeshi
this time i've bought a ruger 77 all weather in stainless. i hope it will last a few more years, changing the barrel is as expensive as buying a new rifle here.
regards
yazid
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