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Fours Hours of Work
22 May 2008, 08:19
ForrestBFours Hours of Work
I got a kick out of this and I thought you guys might as well. Duane’s been working on a 270 for me but the project was held up for a bit waiting on a buttplate from Biesen. Duane got the part so now he’s back on track. He sent me this photo at 11:30 this morning…
and this photo at 3:30 this afternoon…
Not bad progress at all for four hours of work!
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22 May 2008, 08:46
WestpacIt's pretty wierd the things you can accomplish with a chain saw and a rasp.

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This is my rifle, there are many like it but this one is mine. My rifle is my best friend, it is my life.
Wow, You mean you guys dont even let him stop for lunch?

I really look forward to seeing Duane's work in progress photos you and MHC have posted. That has to be a treat when it is your pet project taking shape!
Martini barrel?
Many Thanks
HBH
Absolutely beautiful work, but the quickness of it doesn't surprise me. The man has been doing it so well for so long that every move is probably calculated and known in advance.
22 May 2008, 09:11
ForrestBquote:
Originally posted by HBH:
Martini barrel?
HBH
Yep. 24 inches of chrome moly art.
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quote:
Originally posted by 22WRF:
but the quickness of it doesn't surprise me.
Nor does it surprise me. These projects suck up the hours but if you actually put in a days work things progress rapidly. Many custom smiths would do well to learn that lesson.
Howard
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22 May 2008, 16:05
MKane160Or half a days work..... ;-)
I would absolutely love to spend a day in Duane's shop looking over his shoulder. Awesome....
MKane160
You can always make more money, you can never make more time...........LLYWD. Have you signed your donor card yet?
That's nice! Do I see a dropbox on that 21H?
Terry
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22 May 2008, 19:21
thismortalcoilThat is sweet, a real keeper. Hope you enjoy hunting with it, I know I would
Sure, at $8.00 an hour doesnt a smith have to work fast!

It would take me 4 weeks to get to that point, you can take it off but ya cant put it back on...
Thats going to be one nice rifle, keep pictures coming.
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22 May 2008, 21:14
loud-n-boomerThere may be more than four hours of work pictured. Knowing Duane, he may have taken the first picture at 7:00 in the morning, just before starting on the wood, sent you the first picture at lunch time having already worked four hours on it, and then spent another 3-1/2 hours on it after lunch. In any event, there is a reason that he is a master gunsmith.
Dave
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quote:
It would take me 4 weeks to get to that point,
Hell, I could work on a stick of wood for four DECADES and not get it to that point.
That barrel looks amazing. I'd love to see some better pictures of it.
Forrest,
That is going to be special! Is this one for your son? I am still available for adoption.
Duane,
Very nice!
22 May 2008, 22:04
MKane160Hey, Duane! You need to get in line, son!!! :-)
MKane160
You can always make more money, you can never make more time...........LLYWD. Have you signed your donor card yet?
quote:
Originally posted by MHC_TX:
Forrest,
That is going to be special! Is this one for your son? I am still available for adoption.
Duane,
Very nice!
No chance, Mike, I'm in line first for adoption!

:::SIGH::: beautiful work Forrest & Duane. Anybody want some HEAVILY discounted 450 Dakota brass?

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23 May 2008, 01:44
ForrestBquote:
Originally posted by loud-n-boomer:
There may be more than four hours of work pictured.
Dave
For the record, there's exactly 5 hours and 21 minutes between the digital time stamps on the photos.
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You think that is impressive, you should see what I can do to pack of Oreo cookies in 30 minutes.
All kidding aside, pretty impressive work.
Mike
He sure can "whip" those things out....he is the man

23 May 2008, 04:35
Toomany ToolsWhat I wouldn't do to have a team of trained beavers like Duane's.

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23 May 2008, 05:02
TCLouisquote:
and this photo at 3:30 this afternoon…
A SKILLED CRAFTSMAN can move right along with a project!
This just proves it!
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Challenge your limits
23 May 2008, 05:06
Duane WiebeForty years of creating "mystique"...then you have guys like Forrest...seriously, the barrel is really a work of art and I'll be happy to take some close-ups
23 May 2008, 05:49
ireload2Reminds me of a sketch of one of the great stock makers of in action. He had the blank one end down on a stump with a hatchet. I guess you could say he was rough profiling the blank.
23 May 2008, 06:21
ForrestBquote:
Originally posted by TC1:
That's nice! Do I see a dropbox on that 21H?
Terry
Terry, no dropbox; it's a standard Blackburn #9 for the M98. I can see the same thing you're looking at but it's just a fair amount of wood left to come off the stock forward of the grip.
Slim and trim was the mandate for this rifle. It won't be a lightweight by any stretch but I'm looking for something that will be lively in the hands.
Here's another photo Duane sent today. There's still some wood that needs to come off the forearm but Duane wanted to run it by me before he does more trimming. I don't have much to contribute, but it sure is fun to feel involved in the process.
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Yea, it sure looked like a dropbox. That is sweet. Weight shouldn't be a problem. As I'm sure you already know, if it balances well it'll carry easy.
Terry
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23 May 2008, 07:05
butchlambertForrest and Duane, you guys have out done yourselves again. Very very nice!
Butch
quote:
Originally posted by Toomany Tools:
What I wouldn't do to have a team of trained beavers like Duane's.
For those that don't remember, here is the photo Mr. Wiebe posted of his beavers that do all of his quick dirty work.
Like to see Duane file a bunch more wood off that forearm into a schnable, just for kicks,

realy!
Dont think ive seen a DW style schnable
23 May 2008, 07:32
ForrestBGSP7: Duane does a wonderful schnable and I thought long and hard about using one on this rifle. It would fit right into the overall look of the rifle. I would have used a rounded pistol grip without a grip cap though. I hope I don't end up regreting not going that route.
Hot off the press – here are a few new pics…
The free-hand router scares the devil out of me.
But it all turned out just fine…
Looks great considering there’s not a drop of finish on it yet…
There’s been a lot of file work on the BRNO 21…
Ralf Martini’s reputation remains intact…
I kinda like it…
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23 May 2008, 07:32
ireload2quote:
Originally posted by 22WRF:
quote:
Originally posted by Toomany Tools:
What I wouldn't do to have a team of trained beavers like Duane's.
For those that don't remember, here is the photo Mr. Wiebe posted of his beavers that do all of his quick dirty work.
If that is a 3450 RPM buffer motor you are talking about a lot of chips in a hurry.
23 May 2008, 08:20
Westpacquote:
Duane does a wonderful schnable
I hear you gotta be part cabinet maker and part Mohel to sculpt a great Schnable.

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23 May 2008, 08:25
craigsterquote:
Originally posted by Westpac:
quote:
Duane does a wonderful schnable
I hear you gotta be part cabinet maker and part Mohel to sculpt a great Schnable.

24 May 2008, 07:34
Mike_DettorreHoly Shit batman
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4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
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24 May 2008, 08:29
ForrestBSanded to 400 grit and ready for some red sauce...
Step one complete...
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24 May 2008, 09:47
Michael RobinsonWords fail me - what a stock!
Mike
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NICE wood......very nice work.....of Art you could say!
24 May 2008, 16:05
shootawayI like the whole rifle except for the result of the stuff applied to the stock.I would of prefered a darker end result instead of a clear varnish look.Is this just a sealer or is it the finished stock? Are there any alteranatives?
24 May 2008, 18:48
Duane WiebeThis oil adds just a hint of red...sealer to follow, THEN start finishing
24 May 2008, 19:51
gunmakerDuane
Great looking work. You make it look so easy. Is the Kynoch bottle the stain you are using? Is it readily available?
25 May 2008, 04:02
Duane WiebeYes: kynamco@aol.com. Not sure what kind of oil is used for the base. never seems to dry...I "trick " it with cobalt drier...wear rubber gloves when using cobalt drier! wash well afterwards, don't breath it! Otherwise, perfectly safe!