Custom Mauser Floormetal Poll

09 February 2007, 06:07

I'm NOT taking orders now, just wondering what kinda interest is out there. I'm getting some quotes on straddle floorplates and release for 09 Argentine floormetal. While I'm there I've got a bunch of prints for custom Mauser floormetals I'd like to get quoted as well. I don't want to waste any time on something that has no interest. I am also curious how many are interested in a little less expensive(welded) vs one piece meaning more expensive.These are some of the prints for custom 98 Mauser floormetals I have. Which would you be interested in?Standard 30/06Drop Magazine 30/06...Extra capacity for 9.3x62!!Drop Magazine Short Magnum like 338 WinDrop Magazine 375 H&HMexican Standard lengthWhat's more important to you on custom Mauser floormetal?Two piece welded with lower priceOne piece with higher price

09 February 2007, 08:15

22WRF

I would be interested in some triggerguards that closely resembled the blackburn shape that I could replace my pot metal winchester triggerguards with, and also that I could weld onto mauser magazine boxes.

09 February 2007, 19:40

gunmaker

Wow! Some interesting early results. I never would have thought the Mexican would be so popular. I put it's poll in as an after thought. Drop mag for the 06 is also showing well. Not sure why 22wrf would need any weld on guards after posting pictures of around 10 Argentine guards. If he needs one for a 70 he could just dehorn one from the herd.

I am however, finishing a print for just the guard with a short tang extension in front. With this and the plate/release kit you could cut off the guard on a standard 98 floormetal, weld or solder on the guard, solder in a support for the hinge, weld up the lock screw hole, and drill the hinge pin. This would not be something you would want to pay a smith for. Labor cost would probably rival buying the real thing. Not sure if it would be worth selling fixtures for this guard kit. Maybe just prints for the fixtures??? I'm sure I'd have to do a step by step pic session Here on AR or in the instructions.

10 February 2007, 20:13

gunmaker

I've also got some partial prints for drop magnum integral box magazines for the Enfield. One is a 4 round Rigby and the other is a 5 shot 375 H&H. These would require a bunch of time to crunch all the numbers to come up with a CNC ready print. In addition to this, I've got original Springfield prints and could come up with a custom (09 Argentine looking) floormetal.

11 February 2007, 14:29

<JOHAN>

Gunmaker

Maybe a floorplate and box for the 404 Jeffery and it's offspringâ€™s

Cheers
/JOHAN

11 February 2007, 18:57

ireload2

Have you considered having these quoted by a PRODUCTION wire EDM shop. They can cut the one piece boxes while they sleep. All that metal is left over for making smaller parts.

While wiring the guard bow they could nest the floor plate release and cut it's profile too.
Any number of other custom component blanks could be wired out of the same blank the bottom metal is made from ....all with no tooling but the program code.
Other part blanks that can be wired:
trigger profiles
sear profiles
receiver sight parts,
cocking pieces along the length
bolt stop parts
cocking piece peep sight parts
mount bases
mount rings
square bridge weld on blanks
rear sight band with integral recoil lugs
integral rear scope mount bases/bands that fit over the barrel chamber.

While an end mill has limitations how deep it can cut without bending the wire can cut about as deep as you want as long as it is through the part blank.

11 February 2007, 19:39

gunmaker

I've run an older wire edm a few years back. It was slow by today's standards. Not sure how many square inches an hour they can cut now. The last EDM Mauser floormetal I've seen cost around $500 IIRC in wire time alone plus the price of the titanium. Plenty of other operations to finish.

I do have a rough rigby floormetal print for a mag Mauser, same screw spacing as standard 98. In the future I could downsize it for the 404.

I'm also getting some quotes on grip caps, 3 pos safety, Mauser triggers, etc. I should have some more info this next week!

11 February 2007, 20:02

J Bennett

James

Please do keep us updated on the status of your new venture. Thanks

James

11 February 2007, 20:10

ireload2

James Anderson,
Some of the the newer shops are set up to run wire EDM as a production process not as a tooling process. About 1995 I worked with a shop in Ohio whose name I can't recall that had 15 new wire machines and another 7 on order last I heard. Their rates were much lower than any tool and die oriented shop. With the new self threading features they can let the machines run un-manned at night.

12 February 2007, 04:54

22WRF

quote:
Originally posted by gunmaker:
Wow! Some interesting early results. I never would have thought the Mexican would be so popular. I put it's poll in as an after thought. Drop mag for the 06 is also showing well. Not sure why 22wrf would need any weld on guards after posting pictures of around 10 Argentine guards. If he needs one for a 70 he could just dehorn one from the herd.

I am however, finishing a print for just the guard with a short tang extension in front. With this and the plate/release kit you could cut off the guard on a standard 98 floormetal, weld or solder on the guard, solder in a support for the hinge, weld up the lock screw hole, and drill the hinge pin. This would not be something you would want to pay a smith for. Labor cost would probably rival buying the real thing. Not sure if it would be worth selling fixtures for this guard kit. Maybe just prints for the fixtures??? I'm sure I'd have to do a step by step pic session Here on AR or in the instructions.

Those argentine guards are almost all spoken for.

13 February 2007, 02:33

mad_jack02

Jim I'd be interested in some flore plate kits, and 3 pos. safetys. Hows things going in SD?

13 February 2007, 04:11

gunmaker

quote:
Originally posted by mad_jack02:
Jim I'd be interested in some flore plate kits, and 3 pos. safetys. Hows things going in SD?

It was hot chocolate and peppermint schnapps weather today in Western SDak. They let my little guy our early from school. Spent most of the day working on more prints. safety, trigger etc.......I'm still not sure how you get madjack out of your name. Does it have something to do with a bad night at TSJC?

Ireload
any idea what wire shops charge by the square inch?

13 February 2007, 06:57

butchlambert

Jim,
The stuff that I have done was bid on machine time. I think they bid by material thickness and length of burn. Tooling to hold the part needs to be figured in also. Jerry Stiller wires the raceways in his receivers and it takes 4 hrs even though that isn't many sguare inches,it is a very deep burn.
Butch

13 February 2007, 16:00

mad_jack02

I don't know eigther Jim, but that's what they call me at work? Most all boss's/foremen have nick names given to them.

27 February 2007, 02:10

gunmaker

I want to thank everyone who voted and put their 2cents in on this poll. Today I got my quote back for these floor metals. In lots of 50 the lowest I could sell these unpolished would be $420. This would not include paying me for any extra time to tig weld and clean up after. I know Blackburn may be hard to get parts from, but he makes a great one piece floor metal at a great price. The last pricing I remember seeing on Blackburn's unpolished was around $310??? Correct me if I'm wrong here. Until I get into a larger shop and buy another machining center I won't be making these in house. Making these in house would save the markup $$ and I could get much closer to Blackburn's pricing.

Thanks again for all the info that's been compiled here.