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Ruger #1 ?? repost-Tried this in single shot forum
02 November 2004, 11:38
.44Ruger #1 ?? repost-Tried this in single shot forum
I have never owned or even fired a ruger #1 .
This being said my brother mentioned some time ago that he really liked the weapon and that he wished he had a big bore in that make.
I have decided to purchase one for him as a gift and I have some questions about the gun. (ruger #1, .458 lott in stainless with a laminated stock and open sights)
1. Do you need to work, can you work on, the laminated stock? (crossbolts, bedding, etc)
2. Will this combination break his shoulder..
I have let him fire my CZ lott and he wasn't overly concerned with the recoil....impressed but not in pain. Do these guns recoil harder?
3. Opinions or thoughts on this setup....before I spend the money?
ps I plan to get a #1 for myself in .338 win mag if I like his.
02 November 2004, 12:05
DigitalDanYes, No.
Any work required on the #1 is done under the forearm, not the butt stock. They are well designed to deal with recoil IMO, but you can certainly expect a thump or two. Fist things first, I've had 4, retain two. One stolen was a /2" shooter in .22 Hornet. One sold was an AB in 7x57 that shot really nice patterns. It was rebarreled by the friend that bought it and shoots very well now. My two remaining #1's are 3/4" shooters, .22 K-Hornet and .257 Bob. Both had their triggers replaced, both had the forearm modified to float the barrel. This is something you can do yourself if you have a 2 digit IQ or greater.
They all have their own wants and needs, none of their problems are insurmountable, IF you get one that has a problem in the first place. Methinks the quality of the #1 has improved in recent years, certainly in the barrels. The triggers still suck though.
02 November 2004, 12:16
FjoldI just looked at the Ruger #1 in the Lott chambering when I was looking for a left handed DG rifle and one thing that concerned me was how light it is at 9.5 lbs. That seems to be awful light to me and I really thought about how much recoil that adds up to. How much does your CZ weigh in comparison?
03 November 2004, 03:24
.44Fjold,
the cz is the same weight, I guess the main factor will be shape of the stock.
Clark,
Does your wife know what you are doing with your money.......I couldn't afford to buy ammo for that many rifles.
03 November 2004, 03:24
<eldeguello>Quote:
I have some questions about the gun. (ruger #1, .458 lott in stainless with a laminated stock and open sights)
1. Do you need to work, can you work on, the laminated stock? (crossbolts, bedding, etc) Maybe have to do something with the forend/forend hanger, but shoot it first to see how it groups before messing with it. < !--color-->
2. Will this combination break his shoulder.. I have let him fire my CZ lott and he wasn't overly concerned with the recoil....impressed but not in pain. Do these guns recoil harder? Recoil no worse than any rifle of the same weight and caliber.< !--color-->
3. Opinions or thoughts on this setup....before I spend the money? I have owned No. 1's in calibers from 7X57mm through .45/70, including a 7 Mag. and a .375 H&H. gave the .375 to my son, and the next heavy I buy will be a No. 1 .375 H&H or .416 Rigby!!< !--color-->
You just can't beat them for the price! I see the MSR price for a Chas. Daly Mauser barreled action in .375 H&H is $614.00 - - you can get a No. 1 complete with wood for no more than that!!
ps I plan to get a #1 for myself in .338 win mag if I like his.
03 November 2004, 03:39
.44Last question, if I bought the blued/wood version is the stock strong enough without modifications?
03 November 2004, 03:44
DigitalDanOh yeah, no problem there...
Clark, you blowed them all up yet?
03 November 2004, 03:48
tontoI owned a #1 in 458 lott. I shot it about 100 times it was a backup rifle for my DG hunt. It was very accurate. It did get your attention when you fired it but nothing a decent recoil pad and maybe a little weight wouldnt tame. I thought it a fine gun for the price and would hesitate to buy another.
Dean
do they offer the 458lott in walnut and blue now?
03 November 2004, 03:52
.44Thanks, and yes it is offered in blue and walnut.
03 November 2004, 04:10
Jimno2506I see you've got a few laying around the place.
Care to comment on why you think, in a civilized society, that you should have the ostentatious, reprehensible gall to display, for the world to see, what others can only dream of?
Well, do ya??
LOL, Jim
Yes, as a matter of fact, I AM jealous!
03 November 2004, 08:30
Alberta CanuckClaek -
Are you a collector? Or do you shoot them all?
I'm a shooter and have 15 of them (if you include 1 No. 3), but I counted 25 in your display...makes me feel a bit of a piker...<G>
Alberta Canuck
03 November 2004, 08:37
ClarkThose are not my guns.
I just like the picture.
I have allot more rifles and scopes than that to photo, but mine are mostly $50 surplus rifles and $20 K-4 scopes.
That picture represents more money than I can sneak past MY wife.
I have only two Ruger #1s, but the one I have shot is a great rifle. Everybody should own one.
03 November 2004, 08:51
Bren Mk1Fjold,sir;
I've never weighed my own #1H "Tropical" (.416 Rigby) but I agree that it could be heavier for use with top loads. One thing about the #1H is that it feels distinctly front-heavy to me, and I've been wondering if this might be the rare case where ADDING weight might actually improve the handling of a rifle???
It would be extremely easy to make a lead weight to fit in the bolt-hole of the buttstock, and add considerable weight in doing so, maybe even as much as a couple of pounds.
This leads me to wonder if one couldn't arrange a spring-loaded effect to let the new weight in the butt function sort of like a mercury recoil reducer... better go lie down before my imagination gets the best of me!
I do need more #1 rifles, BADLY. A "set" such as Clark posted would be a fine start, I think.
Don't omit voting today, gents.... Democrats can vote tomorrow to avoid crowds....
03 November 2004, 09:02
<eldeguello>Quote:
Last question, if I bought the blued/wood version is the stock strong enough without modifications?
YESS!!
