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24 February 2004, 08:38
ChuckWagonCustom gun advice
I would like to build a custom rifle on a Mauser action. The ones I had in the past were all German K98's in 8x57. I want to build a 9.3x62. What Mauser action should I start with and how much should I pay for a project gun ? Any advice would be appreciated as this will be my first custom gun.
24 February 2004, 08:47
CustomstoxChuck, I would start with an Argentine, extend the box a bit and you are set to go. The bottom metal is hinged to begin with so you save on getting custom stuff. The cost will depend on whether it is open sights, wood stock etc.
24 February 2004, 10:06
ChuckWagonI had looked at a Abercrombie & Fitch conversion to 30-06. It had a nice stock already. I was thinking that it would not have to blown out too much more for the 9.3x62. I just do not know if it would be strong enough ? I also consider a Winchester pre'64 but no luck on a reasonably priced one
24 February 2004, 10:47
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24 February 2004, 10:56
ChuckWagonI would like to stay under 3k. Much over 5k and I probably would just go to a used Griffen & Howe custom. Beyond that We would be into my dream rifle of a origional pre war Rigby in need of restoration. My question at this point is really not one of cost in terms of the overall project. My concern is getting the proper action for the project and only what price peramiters the actions might run.
24 February 2004, 11:01
CustomstoxChuck, if this conversion is a 98 it would work find an likely save you some money. The 9.3X62 as well as the 9.3X64 Brenneke was designed to be put in the 98. Are you going for open sights or a scope. If you want a scope and the stripper clip hump is still in place you have some options. You can surface grind it and install commecial mauser bases or have custom bases made. You can use bases that will fit on the military configuration. You may need a differnt safety unless that has already been done.
Blue,
Curious, $500 for the barrel? and another $500 to ream it (cut the chamber) and install???? Tell us who is at that upper end so we can avoid him like the plague.
24 February 2004, 11:28
alvinmackQuote:
Blue, Curious, $500 for the barrel? and another $500 to ream it (cut the chamber) and install???? Tell us who is at that upper end so we can avoid him like the plague.
ROFL!!!!! 
24 February 2004, 12:14
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24 February 2004, 12:39
holland465I have used Pac-Nor for barrel and chamber work and they have been excellent. They barreled and chambered a Remington 30-S action for me in 375 Dakota and this rifle shoots like a bench rest gun! They make their own cut rifled barrels and they are very fussy. They will face the front receiver ring so everything is nice and square. The owner is Chris Dichter, his company is in Oregon and their phone number is 541-469-7330.
24 February 2004, 13:25
Glen71Quote:
"I was referring to the high end barrels, like the kreiger and the Walther Lower, which run in the neighborhood of $4-500."
I paid a little over $200 for the Lothar-Walther barrel I bought last year. I sure hope it wasn't a "factory second"! 
24 February 2004, 14:39
CustomstoxJimmy, I will supply you with more of those krieger's at $285. Wait until I get the lipstick wiped off my ass. Messy stuff, don't want it to stain my leather covered shop stool. Jimmy, actually they are $295, I goofed.
24 February 2004, 14:15
ChuckWagonThat's more in the price range of the barrels I have been pricing by Hart,douglass and shilen . I don't need any gold dipped engravings. I just want a new shooter !
24 February 2004, 14:27
SoundmanMy last barrel from Woody at Lothar Walther was a chrome-moly in .338 it was just under $225! Thats a lot less than $500.
I do agree that LW is one for the best barrel makers!
Mike
24 February 2004, 14:33
ChuckWagonHey you weren't screwin around when you said buy looow and sell HIGH now were ya ?!
24 February 2004, 14:40
buchsenschmeidWell Chuckwagon,
I'd say for the budget Your talking about, you should get one hell of a nice gun. Very nice wood, Very nice checkering. Top of the line metal work. Everything but high end engraving.
Should be pretty.
24 February 2004, 14:41
craigsterIf I have a custom rifle built and I pay a guy $1000 for just his barrel work, it better shoot under a half inch consistantly. If not, I would be having a very serious conversation with him about his barrel work and a certain place that the sun doesn't shine.
24 February 2004, 14:49
ChuckWagonIf I pay $1,ooo for barrel work it better perform favors ! On a gun like this if I can shoot 1" groups from the bench that is plenty good enough for me in a hunting rifle. I am at the point where I really no longer like gold, engraving or any of that. The two things that still float my boat are wood and case coloring. I expect the stock to eat the majority of my budget but I am NOT wearing lipstick no matter how cute your walnut is !
24 February 2004, 15:00
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24 February 2004, 15:05
ChuckWagonI bet you can guess where my work is NOT gonna get done ! I have seen a few al Biesen's around 3k finished ( used ) that now look like a bargain !
24 February 2004, 15:47
GSP7Are Lother Walter barrels externaly rough? Thought I read a post that you had to turn them, or the contour them ,or do alot of finish work ,blue preping them .
Correct me if I heard wrong. Im keeping my ears open for a barrel for a project.
Can ya get a better deal on a barrel if ya send a Super model Hooker to the shop with a couple pizzas and beer?
24 February 2004, 15:48
jimmyd223blue, trust me, I can afford what I want
Chic, You supply the barrel's and I'll sell to blue and we split the profit
24 February 2004, 16:14
Glen71Quote:
Are Lother Walter barrels externaly rough? Thought I read a post that you had to turn them, or the contour them ,or do alot of finish work ,blue preping them
On the contrary. What stands out about L-W barrels are their fine finish, inside and out.
24 February 2004, 17:19
GSP7Thanks Glen 71 ... There must of been a thread on barrel blueprep or something and I just remembered the lothar walter name . I remember alot of praise for lother walter barrels . It must have been another brand that was ruff and lothars were the well finished ones . Thanks for clearing my memory
24 February 2004, 18:51
IdahoCTDJust a slight clarification here. Pac-Nor barrels are button rifled. I've been to their shop and checked out the buttons they used for the process. Of all of the big names in barrel making the only two cut rifled barrels I can think of are Kreiger and Obermeyer.
25 February 2004, 02:33
ChuckWagonOk guys my base question here is can I pick up any old German '98 in 8x57 and rework this to 9.3x62. I just want to know IF this can safely be done with this action or if their is a different mauser action that would be better suited to the task within reasonable price peramiters. I really do not want to have more than $500 in the action. I still see '98's with the snot beat out of them for a few hundred bucks. All I want to use is the action so again any help with this would be greatly appreciated.
25 February 2004, 03:10
tom ga hunteri have a commercial fn barrelled action barreled by husqvarna for $300.00..save you lots of money on gunsmithing.. vg condition,, no rust or pitting...30'06, you can make 9.3x62 cases from the 30'06
25 February 2004, 03:21
JubiladoIf you look closely at the winrest page, you will see that the $1000 barrel installation price refers to classic single shot or maybe lever action rifles with octagon barrels, and maybe tapered octagon or octagon/round. There is a lot more to fitting and shaping one of these than a typical bolt action rifle. I'm not saying that $1000 isn't a bit high, but if it involves fitting, shaping and finishing a barrel for one of the old timers, then $1000 might not be too out of line. I do know one very good specialist in single shot rifles who will do a fine job for quite a bit less, though.
25 February 2004, 04:34
ChuckWagonDoes any one know if one of the Interarms actions in 300 mag would work for my project ?
25 February 2004, 04:35
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25 February 2004, 05:01
alvinmackQuote:
I would look for a nice 1909 Argentine Action. Should be about $300 for the action
http://www.cruffler.com/JLD.html
1909 Argentine Mauser barreled actions, VG condition $90.00
Interesting price. The barreled actions that I've seen purchased from here are absolutely mint.
25 February 2004, 05:45
ChuckWagonThe one thing I have seen on some Obendorf and rigby mauser actions is that they are either single or double bridge. What does this mean ? I was beginning to think I had to look at Magnum actions such as a old 350 rigby for this project. From what I understand the 9.3x62 handloaded approaches the 375 H&H. The magnum double bridged Oberndorf and single bridge Rigby marked actions I have seen thus far are in excess of 2k
25 February 2004, 06:06
kutenaymtnboyThe correct Mark X action to use for your 9.3x62 is one made for the .30-06 family of cartridges, not the short magnums as their bolt face is too large and other dimensions are not correct. One of these, or an F.N. would be the easiest way to go and the cheapest; the Husqvarna action being offered you is an F.N. and would be my choice.
I recently purchased a 1933 vintage Mauser Banner action for building a 9.3x62, it will require quite a bit of modification, but, the fabulous quality makes it a worthwhile investment.
25 February 2004, 06:27
ChuckWagonHas this one been stoned and polished ??
25 February 2004, 06:29
alvinmacknope
25 February 2004, 06:40
CustomstoxAlvinmack, there is nothing wrong with Argentine made 09's. I asked that of Maurice Ottmar some years ago and he just chuckled and said they were very good. I know that Maurice got his information from actual experience in building them. I suspect that Blue has one of those Black spheres with the little window and all you do is ask a question and shake it and an answer comes up in the window. Then you just post it and off you go.
The made in Argentina 09's have the same bottom metal also.
25 February 2004, 06:53
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25 February 2004, 06:58
CustomstoxBlue, sorry, I threw away that little black sphere when I was a little kid. If I want a really dumb answer, I will give you a call.
