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16 May 2023, 04:34
Bobster
Odd Mauser clone bolt ID needed
I recently picked up a bolt body in a buy. It is for some type of Mauser clone. The bolt is Stnd length Mauser M98 style with the enlarged rear end. Threaded for a M98 shroud. It has the third safety lug, but no guide rib. Only one 5 mm round gas vent hole between the extractor collar and the bolt head. The bolt head is like that of a '93-'96 Mauser. Extractor cuts indicate it is machined for a M93-M96 style extractor, not a M98 style. Bolt handle is integrally forged and nicely swept with an "onion" style knob and neat scallop. Any idea what this fits?
16 May 2023, 07:15
Fal Grunt
Can you post pictures? Or email me some?

The 93 will have a square edge on the bottom of the bolt face, the 94, 95, 96 all have the normal round bolt face.

93-95 extractors come off the bolt at the 12 oclock position while the 96 and 98 extractors come off at the 6 oclock.

Off the top of my head it doesn't ring a bell, maybe Tom will know what it is. Pictures would be a big help!


Nathaniel Myers
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I buy Mauser actions, parts, micrometers, tools, calipers, etc. Specifically looking for pre-WWII Mauser tools.
16 May 2023, 17:45
Bobster
I'm having issues with Flikr, please PM me your email and I'll forward.

Bob

quote:
Originally posted by Fal Grunt:
Can you post pictures? Or email me some?

The 93 will have a square edge on the bottom of the bolt face, the 94, 95, 96 all have the normal round bolt face.

93-95 extractors come off the bolt at the 12 oclock position while the 96 and 98 extractors come off at the 6 oclock.

Off the top of my head it doesn't ring a bell, maybe Tom will know what it is. Pictures would be a big help!

16 May 2023, 22:09
Fal Grunt
my email is in my signature

nathaniel@myersarms.com.


Nathaniel Myers
Myers Arms LLC
nathaniel@myersarms.com
www.myersarms.com
Follow us on Instagram and YouTube

I buy Mauser actions, parts, micrometers, tools, calipers, etc. Specifically looking for pre-WWII Mauser tools.
16 May 2023, 22:50
dpcd
Husqvarna sporting rifle. HVA, They used a mix of 96 and 98 features; but also used a Model 70 type ejector set at an angle in the receiver, and had the 93/4/5/6 bolt head. Mine has a guide rib. And a tiny lever type bolt stop; not a box.
17 May 2023, 03:27
Bobster
Thanks to all. I can't use it so if any of you all need it let me know, otherwise I will return it.

Here are pics. Finally got Flickr sorted.












17 May 2023, 09:02
montea6b
It looks just like one I bought from Gibbs Rifle Company twenty some years ago. I think they bought out Parker Hale stock and were selling parts off.
17 May 2023, 19:41
dpcd
I have never seen one exactly like that before.
17 May 2023, 22:54
D Humbarger
Husqvarna



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17 May 2023, 23:04
dpcd
I agree, but which model? It doesn't match any of the ones I have or have seen.
18 May 2023, 03:07
brnomauser
Pretty sure it’s not a husqvarna bolt - not a 1640 anyway (which is their own CRF action) as it doesn’t have a split lug, and all the ones I’ve seen have a rib.


It’s not a 1900 cos they’re push feed, and otherwise they used 96 or FN 98 actions I believe?
18 May 2023, 03:44
dpcd
Husqvarna also made some of their own design besides the 96. HVA and the 8000.
18 May 2023, 04:04
brnomauser
quote:
Originally posted by dpcd:
Husqvarna also made some of their own design besides the 96. HVA and the 8000.
by HVA do you mean 1640 (HVA being the name of the company)? I know about the 8000 (also known as 1900) but what other action did they make that wasn’t a 94/96/M38 clone?
18 May 2023, 05:10
Bobster
Revision: It takes a M98 extractor and collar. The bolthead however does not have the extractor undercut to prevent the extractor from springing outward on extraction.
18 May 2023, 05:42
dpcd
And it has the left/upper locking lug all the way to the end; therefore can't have the inner collar of the 98. Anyway, Bobs bolt is none of these.
Here are the only swedish bolts I have ever seen and that is not one of them.
The one with the Model 70 type ejector is obviously not a 96 clone. De Haas calls it the HVA actions on page 189 of his book and that is the 1640; not a 96 clone. Mag box is different too, as is the bolt stop.

18 May 2023, 16:27
Bobster
Yes, it is shaping up to be an attempt at cost cutting. Elimination of the internal ring, no guide rib, no large gas escape holes. An unusual bird indeed.
18 May 2023, 19:08
dpcd
Husqvarna never made a 98; they bought them from Fn (second from the left).
I have no idea what your bolt is for!
19 May 2023, 00:06
F. Guffey
I purchased a few bolts and receivers from P and H, the Mauser receivers came with Springfield Bolts, the Springfield bolt was a bargain but had to be fitted. I would have been better off if I had ordered extra bolt stops.

And then there were the other Springfield bolts, what a bargain?

F. Guffey
19 May 2023, 01:56
Duane Wiebe (CG&R)
I sent a couple fZH complete actons off to heat treat not long ago, so have to rely on "Old man" memory.

They did have the entended lug and a somewhat abbreviated C ring

FZH makes a lot of models, The absence of guide rib? Well I also have an FZH bolt that is .010 oversize in all dimensions...Near as I can tell, won't fit anything!...but they made it for something!

While waiting, maybe someone has a sample or two to compare?