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Odd Mauser clone bolt ID needed
16 May 2023, 04:34
BobsterOdd Mauser clone bolt ID needed
I recently picked up a bolt body in a buy. It is for some type of Mauser clone. The bolt is Stnd length Mauser M98 style with the enlarged rear end. Threaded for a M98 shroud. It has the third safety lug, but no guide rib. Only one 5 mm round gas vent hole between the extractor collar and the bolt head. The bolt head is like that of a '93-'96 Mauser. Extractor cuts indicate it is machined for a M93-M96 style extractor, not a M98 style. Bolt handle is integrally forged and nicely swept with an "onion" style knob and neat scallop. Any idea what this fits?
16 May 2023, 07:15
Fal GruntCan you post pictures? Or email me some?
The 93 will have a square edge on the bottom of the bolt face, the 94, 95, 96 all have the normal round bolt face.
93-95 extractors come off the bolt at the 12 oclock position while the 96 and 98 extractors come off at the 6 oclock.
Off the top of my head it doesn't ring a bell, maybe Tom will know what it is. Pictures would be a big help!
Nathaniel Myers
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I buy Mauser actions, parts, micrometers, tools, calipers, etc. Specifically looking for pre-WWII Mauser tools.
16 May 2023, 17:45
BobsterI'm having issues with Flikr, please PM me your email and I'll forward.
Bob
quote:
Originally posted by Fal Grunt:
Can you post pictures? Or email me some?
The 93 will have a square edge on the bottom of the bolt face, the 94, 95, 96 all have the normal round bolt face.
93-95 extractors come off the bolt at the 12 oclock position while the 96 and 98 extractors come off at the 6 oclock.
Off the top of my head it doesn't ring a bell, maybe Tom will know what it is. Pictures would be a big help!
16 May 2023, 22:09
Fal Gruntmy email is in my signature
nathaniel@myersarms.com.
Nathaniel Myers
Myers Arms LLC
nathaniel@myersarms.com
www.myersarms.comFollow us on Instagram and YouTube
I buy Mauser actions, parts, micrometers, tools, calipers, etc. Specifically looking for pre-WWII Mauser tools.
Husqvarna sporting rifle. HVA, They used a mix of 96 and 98 features; but also used a Model 70 type ejector set at an angle in the receiver, and had the 93/4/5/6 bolt head. Mine has a guide rib. And a tiny lever type bolt stop; not a box.
17 May 2023, 09:02
montea6bIt looks just like one I bought from Gibbs Rifle Company twenty some years ago. I think they bought out Parker Hale stock and were selling parts off.
I have never seen one exactly like that before.
17 May 2023, 22:54
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I agree, but which model? It doesn't match any of the ones I have or have seen.
18 May 2023, 03:07
brnomauserPretty sure it’s not a husqvarna bolt - not a 1640 anyway (which is their own CRF action) as it doesn’t have a split lug, and all the ones I’ve seen have a rib.
It’s not a 1900 cos they’re push feed, and otherwise they used 96 or FN 98 actions I believe?
Husqvarna also made some of their own design besides the 96. HVA and the 8000.
18 May 2023, 04:04
brnomauserquote:
Originally posted by dpcd:
Husqvarna also made some of their own design besides the 96. HVA and the 8000.
by HVA do you mean 1640 (HVA being the name of the company)? I know about the 8000 (also known as 1900) but what other action did they make that wasn’t a 94/96/M38 clone?
18 May 2023, 05:10
BobsterRevision: It takes a M98 extractor and collar. The bolthead however does not have the extractor undercut to prevent the extractor from springing outward on extraction.
And it has the left/upper locking lug all the way to the end; therefore can't have the inner collar of the 98. Anyway, Bobs bolt is none of these.
Here are the only swedish bolts I have ever seen and that is not one of them.
The one with the Model 70 type ejector is obviously not a 96 clone. De Haas calls it the HVA actions on page 189 of his book and that is the 1640; not a 96 clone. Mag box is different too, as is the bolt stop.
18 May 2023, 16:27
BobsterYes, it is shaping up to be an attempt at cost cutting. Elimination of the internal ring, no guide rib, no large gas escape holes. An unusual bird indeed.
Husqvarna never made a 98; they bought them from Fn (second from the left).
I have no idea what your bolt is for!
19 May 2023, 00:06
F. GuffeyI purchased a few bolts and receivers from P and H, the Mauser receivers came with Springfield Bolts, the Springfield bolt was a bargain but had to be fitted. I would have been better off if I had ordered extra bolt stops.
And then there were the other Springfield bolts, what a bargain?
F. Guffey
19 May 2023, 01:56
Duane Wiebe (CG&R)I sent a couple fZH complete actons off to heat treat not long ago, so have to rely on "Old man" memory.
They did have the entended lug and a somewhat abbreviated C ring
FZH makes a lot of models, The absence of guide rib? Well I also have an FZH bolt that is .010 oversize in all dimensions...Near as I can tell, won't fit anything!...but they made it for something!
While waiting, maybe someone has a sample or two to compare?