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Reclaimed Zpatero Wood from Panama
29 June 2016, 09:37
Brian CanadaReclaimed Zpatero Wood from Panama
It has been submerged for 90 years near the Panama Canal in a lake created by Teddy Roosavelt, then reclaimed recently.
I have a cured, large, live edge slab that would make several stock blanks.
Has anybody ever worked with it or know if it would make much of a gunstock? It is heavy, straight grained and very plan looking. Thanks, Brian
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29 June 2016, 15:04
Brian CanadaSorry, It is spelled ZAPATERO. Brian
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29 June 2016, 18:31
drhall762quote:
ZAPATERO
It is about as dense as the walnuts. It is somewhat harder. Depending on the part of the tree it comes from some of it is quite well figured. Used for high end furniture so it might have application as a gun stock. I think it is also referred to as Panamanian Walnut.
That's about all I know. Never actually seen a piece.
Dave
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29 June 2016, 22:01
Brian CanadaThanks Dave, My piece is very plain, straight grained and light brown in colour. Also very heavy.
Brian
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29 June 2016, 22:05
Brian CanadaHere is a Youtube link showing Zapatara wood being recovered from that lake in Panama.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkQ11av1QaM
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29 June 2016, 22:21
drhall762quote:
Originally posted by Brian Canada:
Thanks Dave, My piece is very plain, straight grained and light brown in colour. Also very heavy.
Brian
My pleasure. I seem to be a well of trivial knowledge. Nice when I get to use it.
Dave
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29 June 2016, 22:30
Singleshot03Nice video Those are some nice sized boards they are getting from those old trees.
IF it's fresh water that's fine but salt water will be a nightmare.As in Browning's because of salt in the stocks from '6os and 70'sa drying fiasco !
30 June 2016, 00:00
Brian Canadamete, Good point. I remember the "Browning salt fiasco" I think it is fresh water but I will doulbe check. Thanks, Brian
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30 June 2016, 00:19
p dog shooterA company tried to make a business of recovering logs from lake Superior and sawing them. they had all kinds of problems with the wood and went out of business.
30 June 2016, 00:20
Brian CanadaSingleshot93, Yes that is interesting. A friend got a few slabs for mantle pieces etc. and gave me one.
I assume that you are single shot man. I wanted to tell you that my latest preocupation is making up low cost single shot rifles. Currently I am working on a 50-110 Wincester. I am using a break-open shotgun action. The part I like is making the stock/forearm. I may make one out of Zapatero. (I get a pro to do the chambering and machining.) I am also into TC encores. Brian
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30 June 2016, 00:25
Brian Canadap dog shooter, Yep, That would be a tough way to make a dollar I'll bet.
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30 June 2016, 00:27
Brian Canadamete PS. Good call. Just in case I thing that when I bed it, I will epoxy any wood that comes near the metal.
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30 June 2016, 00:31
GatogordoNot to point out the obvious, but if it's plain, and straight grained, why use it when you can purchase the same in walnut for very little money.
I know it's your money and your deal, but sometimes we wind up spending a dollar to save a dime.
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30 June 2016, 00:49
Brian CanadaGatogordo, Good call. I am starting to ask myself the same question. I have several blanks of lovely curly walnut and maple that are already cured.
The Zapatero came to me as a gift from a good pal who wanted to do something nice for me. He feels it is very special wood but thanks to people on this thread a am realizing that it is not. I feel obligated to do something with it. Maybe I should just make a coffee table or something out of it! I have to do something with it. (I could make about 200 walking sticks! chuckle.)
Thanks for the new perspective. Brian
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01 July 2016, 02:16
Brian CanadaI have done the math and figured out how to maximize the value of my slab of exotic Zapatero wood salvaged from it's underwater grave in Panama. I will turn it into 10,562 chop sticks. Brian
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01 July 2016, 03:53
GatogordoGreat idea! Now all you have to do is find 5,281 people who want zapatero chop sticks.
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01 July 2016, 03:59
Brian CanadaIt's already in the business plan!
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01 July 2016, 05:16
drhall762I'll take a set.
Dave
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01 July 2016, 05:33
Brian CanadaI'll make a note. Brian
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01 July 2016, 18:45
GatogordoI'll do a field test and report on utility, balance, finish, etc. Of course, I'll have to keep the used samples.
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01 July 2016, 22:39
Brian CanadaWe're goin' downtown!
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