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28 August 2007, 09:12
dempsey
Inletting a octagon barrel
I'm considering doing a half octagon half round barrel. How do they compare to inletting a round barrel, this will be my first. Thanks, Rob.


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28 August 2007, 16:21
dempsey
SDH, thanks. I'll do a few more regular contours first before I tackle it I think. I'm glad I asked, I was picturing the process in my mind lying in bed last night and was convinced it'd be easier to avoid gaps with a octagon.


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28 August 2007, 16:49
Brent
It goes a lot easier if you use one of these - and spend a lot of time setting it up first

http://www.who-sells-it.com/images/catalogs/1854/pdf_7642.pdf


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29 August 2007, 06:48
djpaintles
quote:
Originally posted by dempsey:
I'm considering doing a half octagon half round barrel. How do they compare to inletting a round barrel, this will be my first. Thanks, Rob.


Octagon's are a lot more difficult than round ones. You would probably be better off doing a round barrel or two first.

When you ARE ready to do an Octogan getting tips from SDH is like having Babe Ruth help you pick out a baseball bat. SDH is one of the finest rifle makers in the world and an extremely nice and helpful gunsmithing mentor. We're lucky to have him post here......................DJ


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29 August 2007, 07:48
dempsey
dj, I've done several round barrels, no octagons yet. I'm still kicking it around. SDH's work certainly speaks highly of his skill.

Part of the fun is in the planning. I'm still not sure if I want a steel buttplate on a 9.3x62 Smiler Still kicking that around too.


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30 August 2007, 22:17
Jim Kobe
I will agree that they are more difficult than the round barrels. One thing to check and double check; the sides of the octagon have to be perfectlty parallel with the veritcal plane of the guard screws. They have to both drop straight down into the blank. If not, you will have a gap on one side and be tight on the other.

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30 August 2007, 23:19
tiggertate
If you want a lot of anguish and self-doubt, try a swamped one for your first octagon project. I've ended up making a pattern stock for it to put myself out of my misery.


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30 August 2007, 23:45
dempsey
I order a round 9.3 barrel today. I will do a half octagon/round on my next one, a 7x57. I'm hoping just maybe I'll win the lottery by that time and buy a nice mill, just in case that brilliant plan falls thru I'll just dive in head first.


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31 August 2007, 04:39
dempsey
Thanks, that is all excellent information. I really like how that barrel makes the transition from octagon to round, simple and clean. I'll book mark this thread and go over it several times.


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31 August 2007, 05:10
gsp
Man I hope I get that good before I take permanent residence in the dirt.

Nice!
31 August 2007, 05:36
Duane Wiebe
Nice example, Steve! For what it's worth, whenever possible, I like to file a slight "draft" on the flats that enter the fore end...a significant draft would be even gooder, but you gotta stop somewhere!
31 August 2007, 06:40
tin can
this is a good thread, and that's a graceful rifle.
31 August 2007, 22:42
22WRF
SDH

Absolutely gorgeous work!!

Dempsey

I once read an article by Jim Carmeichal in which he talked about doing octagon barrels. I think he also wrote the same article into one of his gunsmithing books. What he used was a router (and guide attachment) with a straight bit and a 45 degree bit for doing those octagon barrels. Of course he was working from a blank and the barrels were straight where he was ineletting them. But it might be worth a couple of two by fours and a couple of router bits to do some practice to see how close you could come before doing some hand work to get real close.