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Barrel length for 300 H&H?
Barrel length for 300 H&H?
What length barrel would you choose for a 300 H&H?
Jim
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02 March 2010, 00:27
Harris24"
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02 March 2010, 02:25
Chobe Bushbuck26"
02 March 2010, 02:36
ramrod340I feel that 24" is fine for 30 caliber mags like the 300wmag, 300H&H and 308 Norma. Bigger than that and a 26" might help
As usual just my $.02
Paul K
Does anyone have a 300 H&H with a barrel shorter than 24"
Jim
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02 March 2010, 18:09
MHC_TXI have two 300H&Hs with 26" bbls and one 300H&H with a 25" bbl.
If I was wanting a bbl length shorter than 24" then I would get a 30/06 with a 22" bbl.
03 March 2010, 01:12
MHC_TXGrenadier,
As far as my logic......generally magnum cases are more efficient with 24-26" bbls (this is nothing new). However, the 300H&H is probably the most efficient of the big 30cal magnums (least overbore). As we start cutting off a inch, two, three or four we are generally also reducing efficiency. This can be countered to some degree, by switching to faster burning powders.
For me, the shortest bbl length I would want on a hunting rifle would be 22 inchs and I'm not really interested in a heavier 22 inch flame throwing magnum, that gives me 30/06 performance.....why not just start out with a 30/06. It is cheaper to feed and ammo is ubiquitous.
I also find a longer length barrel much easier to shoot off hand. This is my preference and it may not be right for you.
For the record, I do have a 23 inch barreled Dakota in 300WSM......what can I say other than it came that way from the factory. It is handy especially with it's short action.
I also have and use a chronograph and it generally doesn't lie to me.......even though sometimes I wish it would.
03 March 2010, 04:51
270Model70For what it is, my pre-64 Model 70 seems right with its 26" barrel.
A light mountain rifle for a backpack type hunt it is not.
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Originally posted by Abob:
Does anyone have a 300 H&H with a barrel shorter than 24"
I had one that finished at 23". It worked just fine for me.
Terry
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03 March 2010, 15:12
enfieldsparesIt's not just the bite at the front end that might concern you but the bite at the back end.
Short barrels = muzzle blast = you go deaf over the long term.
For that reason alone I would not have any high velocity rifle with a barrel less than 24" or the metric equivalent of 60cm (23.50").
I once had a 22" barrel Churchill in 270 Winchester and with the standard 130 grain W-W ammunition it was a bit hard on the ears!
I owned a Ruger RSI .270win once with a 17" barrel. It was a little tough on the ears.
Terry
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Well, other than that Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?
03 March 2010, 18:38
Dr. LouAlthough you can obviously do what makes you happy, the traditional barrel length for the 300 H&H is 26 inches.
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03 March 2010, 19:01
ramrod340quote:
Short barrels = muzzle blast = you go deaf over the long term.
As I sit here typing with my TWO hearing aid in

I can't help but say if you are worrying about the blast difference given by a couple inches of barrel you are going to end up like me EITHER WAY. I always thought heck I use muffs at the range or while shooting sporting clays etc. No problem. Never worried about it HUNTING.

My suggestion is NEVER fire a weapon of anykind 22 included without protection. Don't want to fool with muffs fine get you some inserts. Even at a sevral hundred $$$ cheap insurance you can buy 4-6 pair for the price of good hearing aids. Trust me fooling with them when you are shooting is a HECK of a lot simplier than having to put in a pair of HIGH $$ aids to simply hear the TV or your wife talk to you. No guys I happen to like to hear my wife.

As usual just my $.02
Paul K
03 March 2010, 22:20
enfieldsparesquote:
Trust me fooling with them when you are shooting is a HECK of a lot simplier than having to put in a pair of HIGH $$ aids to simply hear the TV or your wife talk to you.
I am sorry that you have that problem but thank you for sharing what is an important issue regarding hearing.
It's not just rifles and as much as I would like a Churchill XXV shot gun I won't go down that route either because of blast.
03 March 2010, 23:21
ramrod340quote:
It's not just rifles and as much as I would like a Churchill XXV shot gun I won't go down that route either because of blast.
You are right I think the majority of my loss was my little SXS 20ga hunting doves and guail.
As usual just my $.02
Paul K
04 March 2010, 01:13
butchlambertPaul,
I guess that I have been a weeny, I use custom molded plugs and muffs. I want to be able to hear the wife yell at me.
Butch
04 March 2010, 01:52
ramrod340quote:
I guess that I have been a weeny
Weeny no

Smart Yes

As usual just my $.02
Paul K
Paul, you have hijacked my thread, but for a good cause

I have been pretty happy with the little Sure Fire insets
SureFireThink I'll leave the barrel I got from Bob at 23"
Jim
fur, feathers, & meat in the freezer
"Pass it on to your kids"
04 March 2010, 09:28
ramrod340quote:
Paul, you have hijacked my thread, but for a good cause
Sorry about that. As my step son would say. "I didn't start it"

But I sure did add on.

Guess best way to say it don't worry about a short barrel and muzzle blast because you should have your ears covered anyway.

Since the barrel is already 24" I wouldn't change it.
As usual just my $.02
Paul K
04 March 2010, 18:28
DeweyI recently scored a very sanitary, 95% P-64 in .300H&H, my fourth of these since 1989. I much prefer the 26" tube on these and after loading for .300Wea., .300RUM., .300Win. and shooting these plus .308Norma and .300WSM rifles, I still prefer the old "ouch and ouch".
I usually load 200 NPs and 200 Speers over H-4350 to close to 2900 fps. and this is much nicer to shoot than my 25" barreled P-64 .375s or .338WM Alaskans have been. While not quite as hardhitting on bigger stuff, this load is easy to shoot without a recoil pad and it WILL do the business on any game here in BC.
I am having a Rimrock stock put on it to match the one on the minty P-64 .375 I have and these will be my "African" rifles, should I ever get the urge to hunt there.
I find that barrels from 23-26" work best for me on bolt rifles and I have used these in very heavy bush without a problem.