Big Green Mauser?

25 January 2006, 23:04

Rick 0311

quote:
Originally posted by x-51:
Has anyone else heard of this? I wonder when we'll be seeing them on the market?
http://www.charlesdaly.com/newsletter/vol4/feb06/feb06email.html

I got my recent Jerryâ€™s Sporting Goods dealer catalog and they have them listed. Whether or not they are in stock I donâ€™t know.

25 January 2006, 23:25

HunterJim

This news has sort of leaked out, and I expect Big Green will disclose all at the SHOT Show next month (along with their new M700 trigger).

jim

26 January 2006, 00:15

D Humbarger

Wonder what is going to be on the side? Big Green, Remington? I vote for nothing at all.

26 January 2006, 01:00

HP Shooter

So Charles Daly is now the purveyor of only cheap Filipino and Turk crap?

Their Sabatti made over/unders were actually decent guns.....

Anyway, If Remington puts a matte-blued Zastava action in their CDL stock, they might have a nice rifle that I would be interested in buying.

26 January 2006, 04:54

Tex21

Not so fast HP.

I've actually seen some decent shotguns coming out of Turkey. The Turks seem to be getting better and better at making them as time goes on. They're a pretty good value, I'd say.

As to the M798 Remington - I'd buy one or two myself if this move improves their quality. I further hope, that if it does, there'll be action available to play with.

26 January 2006, 05:23

KurtC

I've owned a few of the 7MS models over the years, and have been impressed with the craftsmanship of the their Custom Shop. Unfortunately, they've had to work with piss-poor designs, and there is only so much perfume that you can put on a pig.

The 798 might be just the thing to give Remington back their pre-war respect. Hopefully they will just import the Zastava actions, leaving the fit and finish of complete rifles to their Custom Shop.

26 January 2006, 06:47

HP Shooter

I don't know Kurt, that piss-poor design is good enough for the Army and Marine Corps sniper rifles.

26 January 2006, 07:24

Rick 0311

I would much rather see Remington re-introduce the model 30 and/or the model 720 instead of some cheap Mauser copy.

And that â€œpiss-poorâ€œ 700 action dominated BR matches for allot of years, and has only recently been replaced by specific purpose custom made actions...not by Mausers or Winchesters!

It has also served as the Marine Corps sniper rifle since 1966...which I believe is the longest continuous service of any individual weapon in our military, except for the M16.

26 January 2006, 07:40

HP Shooter

quote:
Originally posted by Rick 0311:
I would much rather see Remington re-introduce the model 30 and/or the model 720 instead of some cheap Mauser copy.

Ain't gonna happen. The cost cutters at Remington now appear to have turned the company into more and more of an importer and less and less of a manufacturer since every single new rifle since the M700 (M710, M597, M504) has failed to set the world on fire.

WTF were they thinking with the 710?

26 January 2006, 18:36

Timan

With everybody under the sun making some sort of Remington 700 tubeular lazy ass action. It could be that big green is going to make a Mauser, hell they sell less than 20,000 700s a year now, in the 1970's the sold 45,000 to 50,000 700s. In other words why not make 20,000 big green mausers at $2000.00 each, and sell them all, instead of 20,000 700s at $600.00 each that nobody is interested in. Modern shooters don't want a bone stock factory Rem 700, that gun is for the middle class and the middle class doesn't hunt anymore. The middle class is to busy with soccer games and games that involve balls, balls for the most part are cheap. After the mortgage,two car payments credit cards and 700 diapers a month at a buck a piece. The middle class is broke, right where uncle sam wants him, because a man that is broke is controllable. This country is going to be like Mexico before too long. There are two types of poeple there. Super wealthy and Super un-wealthy and the latter still hunts with a spear because spears are damn near free and the ammo for spear is super cheap.
Timan

26 January 2006, 18:43

El Deguello

quote:
Originally posted by x-51:
Has anyone else heard of this? I wonder when we'll be seeing them on the market?
http://www.charlesdaly.com/newsletter/vol4/feb06/feb06email.html

What! Remington wants to market a GOOD RIFLE?? Amazing!!

Seriously, I'm still waiting for that Russian SXS double rifle REM. promised us about five years ago!!

26 January 2006, 18:47

El Deguello

quote:
Originally posted by Tex21:
Not so fast HP.

I've actually seen some decent shotguns coming out of Turkey. The Turks seem to be getting better and better at making them as time goes on. They're a pretty good value, I'd say.

As to the M798 Remington - I'd buy one or two myself.

Yes, and besides, the Turks have some of the world's best wood to put on them!!

26 January 2006, 19:00

Bill Soverns

TiMan,

I guess I just missed meeting you in Reno. If your in Reno next year look me up!

26 January 2006, 19:27

HP Shooter

quote:
Originally posted by Timan:
With everybody under the sun making some sort of Remington 700 tubeular lazy ass action. It could be that big green is going to make a Mauser, hell they sell less than 20,000 700s a year now, in the 1970's the sold 45,000 to 50,000 700s. In other words why not make 20,000 big green mausers at $2000.00 each, and sell them all, instead of 20,000 700s at $600.00 each that nobody is interested in. Modern shooters don't want a bone stock factory Rem 700, that gun is for the middle class and the middle class doesn't hunt anymore. The middle class is to busy with soccer games and games that involve balls, balls for the most part are cheap. After the mortgage,two car payments credit cards and 700 diapers a month at a buck a piece. The middle class is broke, right where uncle sam wants him, because a man that is broke is controllable. This country is going to be like Mexico before too long. There are two types of poeple there. Super wealthy and Super un-wealthy and the latter still hunts with a spear because spears are damn near free and the ammo for spear is super cheap.
Timan

A lot of middle class shooters do not hunt, but they do shoot. They just don't shoot the kind of guns that most people here prefer, or that Remington makes.

And for clarification, Remington isn't going to make anything Mauser-like. They are going to have someone else make it and engrave "Remington" on it.

The rest of the rant makes no sense.

26 January 2006, 20:54

Rick 0311

quote:
Originally posted by HP Shooter:
quote:
Originally posted by Rick 0311:
I would much rather see Remington re-introduce the model 30 and/or the model 720 instead of some cheap Mauser copy.

Ain't gonna happen. The cost cutters at Remington now appear to have turned the company into more and more of an importer and less and less of a manufacturer since every single new rifle since the M700 (M710, M597, M504) has failed to set the world on fire.

WTF were they thinking with the 710?

Can you say Edsel??? Same mind set at work.

26 January 2006, 22:54

flaco

Add me to the list of those sad they missed you at Reno, Timan.

Aren't you the guy that milled Mauser actions from titanium stock?

flaco

26 January 2006, 23:06

Rick 0311

Checked my Jerryâ€™s Sport Center catalog and this is what they list for the new Remingtonâ€™s:

Model 799: Mini-Mauser in .223, .222, .22 Hornet, 7.62x39, .22-250...$439.95

Model 798: Mauser in .30-06, .243, .308, .270...$439.95

Model 798: Mauser Magnum: 7mm mag, .300 Win Mag...$459.95

Model 798: Mauser Safari Mag in, .375 H&H, .458 mag...$539.95

Those prices are dealer prices.

27 January 2006, 00:32

kaboom

Rick,
does It say how they are stocked ?

27 January 2006, 00:56

Rick 0311

quote:
Originally posted by kaboom:
Rick,
does It say how they are stocked ?

The models shown in the catalog all come with Blued steel, brown laminated stocks, and hinged floorplates.

It also shows a bunch of shotguns (over/unders, doubles, single shots, one auto loader)... single shot rifles, side by side rifles, and over/under comboâ€™s...as well as one bolt action rim fire.

27 January 2006, 01:36

HP Shooter

quote:
Originally posted by Rick 0311:
quote:
Originally posted by kaboom:
Rick,
does It say how they are stocked ?

The models shown in the catalog all come with Blued steel, brown laminated stocks, and hinged floorplates.

Interesting. But not if those are dealer prices, which means that retail prices will be at least 10% higher.

They are now in CZ 550 territory.

27 January 2006, 02:07

TC1

quote:
Originally posted by Rick 0311:
quote:
Originally posted by kaboom:
Rick,
does It say how they are stocked ?

The models shown in the catalog all come with Blued steel, brown laminated stocks, and hinged floorplates.

It also shows a bunch of shotguns (over/unders, doubles, single shots, one auto loader)... single shot rifles, side by side rifles, and over/under comboâ€™s...as well as one bolt action rim fire.

Hey Rick, Do they have a price on that SXS .45-70 everybody wants but can't get?

Thanks,
Terry

27 January 2006, 02:47

Rick 0311

Terry,

I once again have to admit to my ignorance (damn that happens allot!)...I have no idea what an SXS 45-70 is.

Who makes it? The catalog is divided into manufacturers.

27 January 2006, 02:51

TC1

It's a Remington product sold under the Sparton banner name. It's a side by side double rifle chambered in .45-70 and .30-06 I think suggested retail is about $650.00.

Thanks for looking.
Terry

27 January 2006, 04:28

skl1

quote:
Originally posted by Rick 0311:
Checked my Jerryâ€™s Sport Center catalog and this is what they list for the new Remingtonâ€™s:

Model 799: Mini-Mauser in .223, .222, .22 Hornet, 7.62x39, .22-250...$439.95

Model 798: Mauser in .30-06, .243, .308, .270...$439.95

Model 798: Mauser Magnum: 7mm mag, .300 Win Mag...$459.95

Model 798: Mauser Safari Mag in, .375 H&H, .458 mag...$539.95

Those prices are dealer prices.

Rick,

Do they show any in left-handed?

Thanks,

Steve

27 January 2006, 04:44

Rick 0311

quote:
Originally posted by TC1:
It's a Remington product sold under the Sparton banner name. It's a side by side double rifle chambered in .45-70 and .30-06 I think suggested retail is about $650.00.

Thanks for looking.
Terry

YES! But its an SPR-22 not an SXS.

45-70 $549.95

Chrome Lined Hammer forged barrel, Walnut Stock, Double triggers. Blued receiver 23 Â½ â€œ Barrel.

27 January 2006, 04:44

Rick 0311

quote:
Originally posted by skl1:
quote:
Originally posted by Rick 0311:
Checked my Jerryâ€™s Sport Center catalog and this is what they list for the new Remingtonâ€™s:

Model 799: Mini-Mauser in .223, .222, .22 Hornet, 7.62x39, .22-250...$439.95

Model 798: Mauser in .30-06, .243, .308, .270...$439.95

Model 798: Mauser Magnum: 7mm mag, .300 Win Mag...$459.95

Model 798: Mauser Safari Mag in, .375 H&H, .458 mag...$539.95

Those prices are dealer prices.

Rick,

Do they show any in left-handed?

Thanks,

Steve

No.

27 January 2006, 05:50

D Humbarger

Maybe they will have a nice Remington logo on the receiver ring!

27 January 2006, 18:19

Timan

Hey flaco and bill I'll be there next year. Same place. I hope right by Mavros and the aluminum palm trees second room on the right across from the silent auction.
Timan

28 January 2006, 02:40

skl1

quote:
Originally posted by Rick 0311:
quote:
Originally posted by skl1:
quote:
Originally posted by Rick 0311:
Checked my Jerryâ€™s Sport Center catalog and this is what they list for the new Remingtonâ€™s:

Model 799: Mini-Mauser in .223, .222, .22 Hornet, 7.62x39, .22-250...$439.95

Model 798: Mauser in .30-06, .243, .308, .270...$439.95

Model 798: Mauser Magnum: 7mm mag, .300 Win Mag...$459.95

Model 798: Mauser Safari Mag in, .375 H&H, .458 mag...$539.95

Those prices are dealer prices.

Rick,

Do they show any in left-handed?

Thanks,

Steve

No.

Rick,

Thanks for the reply. That's odd. Zastava's making them in LH for Daly. Can't be any harder to import them with the bolt on the other side, can it?

Maybe they don't stack well in the embark boxes?