1975 BDL 30-06 straight factory

A guy I know was checking out some wolf trapping spots and want to know if he could site is rifle in on my range.

I said ok pop on a bi-pod and said go at it I watch him take the safety off and he is just pulling hard on the trigger.

He works the bolt up and down safety on and of and it still well not fire.

Unload it work the bolt pull the trigger work the safety rifle dry fires.

Load proceed to fire a couple of rounds. He says you shoot it. Ok load it get down prone aim pull the trigger nothing work the safety work the bolt nothing. Unload it dink around starts working fire a couple of rounds.

Dry fire a bunch more seems to work. Fellow says he didn't get to shoot a nice buck because of the problem.

I say get it fixed.

Any ideas.

My first guess is that the sear isn't holding the firing pin back, so the rifle isn't cocked. Mess around with it and the sear comes loose and works for a while.

I say get it fixed.

dave

Are you certain it was cocked? I've seen many Remingtons with the trigger adjusted incorrectly with adjusting screw adjusted so light it wouldn't hold the trigger connector over to allow the bolt to cock reliably. If the bolt is cocked the overtravel screw adjusted too tight could be the issuE. Lots of people with jeweler's screwdriver dick with a Remington triggers.

Yep. The sear engagement and weight of pull have to be coordinated when adjusting the old trigger. Then, they must be sealed so they don't move after adjustment. There is a hole in the trigger housing that lets you see the sear engagement as you adjust it. Frank de Haas describes the proper procedure in "Bolt Action Rifles". The other wildcard is that when the barreled action is bolted into the stock, unequal tension between the fore and aft action screws can alter the trigger pull by bending the receiver.

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Originally posted by Toomany Tools:
Are you certain it was cocked? I've seen many Remingtons with the trigger adjusted incorrectly with adjusting screw adjusted so light it wouldn't hold the trigger connector over to allow the bolt to cock reliably. If the bolt is cocked the overtravel screw adjusted too tight could be the issuE. Lots of people with jeweler's screwdriver dick with a Remington triggers.

Isn't there a re-call on those?
If someone has "adjusted" it, they might have gotten the sear engagement too tight; the trigger can't release the sear, which lets the cocking piece/firing pin, fall.

Some bore solvents like Brite Bore will drain down into the trigger and and gum it up.

When you disassemble the trigger it will be gummed up with yellow wax. After cleaning with Hoppes or brake cleaner reassemble and they will work fine.
While you are at it make sure the trigger is set up right for engagement, over travel and weight of pull.

Could be any of them not my rifle only met the guy because he has a wolf tag and I know where wolves are.

If I remember right it was cocked?

If it was mine I would taken the rifle out of the action and had a look at it.

Remington hasn't always seal the screws I believe this rifle is old enough not to have sealed screws.

dpcd is correct. If memory serves me there have been a few recalls of those older 700s for one thing or another regarding the triggers.

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MODEL 700,CENTER FIRE RIFLES MFG BEFORE 1982
MODEL 600, 660, 721, 722 40-X RIFLES MFG BEFORE MARCH 1982
MODEL XP-100 TARGET PISTOL MFG BEFORE FEBRUARY 1975

RECALL: Remington Arms Company, Inc. is offering a safety modification program for certain bolt-action centerfire firearms manufactured prior to 1982, including the Model 700, Model 600, 660, 721, 722, 40-X bolt-action rifles (made before March 1982) and Model XP-100 target pistols made before February 1975.

....These firearms have a feature known as a bolt-lock that requires the safety to be placed in the “off” position in order to unload the gun.....

If you want assistance, call Remington’s toll-free consumer hotline at (877) 387-6691

The recall on that vintage was to remove the bolt lock feature of the safety so the bolt can be opened with safety on.

Yes, because on rare occassions switching to SAFE was all it took to make the rifle fire unexpectedly. It didn't fix the problem it just made it less likely to occur. They had additional recalls later.

Several years after that initial recall, I sent a Remington 600 in and it came back with the heaviest trigger I have ever enountered on any firearm. Pull weight was significantly heavier than the pull on my S&W N-Frame revolver. They had obviously changed more than the bolt-lock feature.

The last 700 I owned was a circa 2009 rifle. It was the only one I had go off unexpectedly but it happened with nothing more than working the bolt while reloading and it happed on a hunt. I got rid of the rifle after that and I have decided to never own another Model 700.

Anyone with an older model 700, or even newer in the case of the X-Mark trigger, should call the Remington number to to see if they need to send it in. Remington has removed the older notices from their website. At least I can't locate them there anymore.

IMO, the best things anyone with one of those rifles can do is either install a good aftermarket trigger or replace the rifle.

Pull the barreled action out of the stock.
Douche the trigger group with mineral spirits & acetone.
Check trigger adjustments.
Field strip the bolt/firing pin assy & douche with mineral spirits & acetone.

Reassemble

It's not rocket science!

Any questions....seek professional assistance.

Try adjusting the sear engagement first. If you can't get it to fire and work properly then replace it.

After travel screw is set too tight... look at that as well.

Get rid of that trigger ASAP. Have a smith install a Timney or other proven aftermarket trigger.