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Model H-S Precision Stock: To Bed or Not to Bed?

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13 December 2005, 06:32
Just Some Guy
Model H-S Precision Stock: To Bed or Not to Bed?
I have what was once a Wal-Fart Model 70 "package" gun.

It now sits in an H-S Precision Pro 2000 stock with new Williams bottom metal (thanks Matt, it looks GOOD).

Right now I just have everything sort of "try" fitted to see how the fit and inletting is. Everything looks good, no apparent high spots, etc.

The stock came with some bedding compound and the following instruction:

"A small amount of bedding is required to center the flat receiver of the Winchester Model 70, Browning A-Bolt, and the Ruger M77 Mark II."

According to the H-S Precision representative with whom I spoke, "most" Model 70s will drop right in and require no sanding or bedding for proper fit.

So the question is this: would you go ahead and bed the receiver to the action block if everything was a "drop in" fit?

If so, why?

If not, why not?

TIA
13 December 2005, 06:40
Jay Gorski
Received my new H-S stock couple weeks ago, sure it's heavier than alot of other stocks out there, but it feels very solid in my hands.

Also had my "smith" put in some 8-40 screws in the bases, since I apparantly snapped off the front screw years ago and didn't know it, all this time while shooting with 2 screws.

BTW, Stock fit perfectly with no sanding, grinding of any kind. But H-S does send some bedding compound along with Winchester stocks to center the flat receiver of the aforementioned rifles, which include Rugers and Brownings. But fwiw, I fit the action beforehand and it seemed to fit just fine.

If you don't mind a little more heft in your rifles, I'd have to recommend H-S stocks, like I said, they're a very solid feeling stock.

This is from my thread this morning, I'd use the bedding compound, just so all your bases are covered. If it were a Remington action, I wouldn't bed it, and I haven't bedded the H-S stock on my 7mm08, shoots too damn good the way it is. Jay
13 December 2005, 10:58
Rick 0311
Since no two receivers have “exactly“ the same dimensions how could a machined block “exactly“ fit all of them?
13 December 2005, 11:26
grizz007
Rick, if I may inject into this thread - what stock(s) do you prefer that are synthetic? I've a 98 Commercial and am consdering a change-my smith friend mentioned the H-S as well and you're point is sensible.
13 December 2005, 15:39
p dog shooter
I bed most of my rifles. But if it shoots the way it is don't worry about it.

If you bed it properly it well not hurt it.
13 December 2005, 16:01
Bushchook
I spoke to the leading benchrest rifle builder in Australia about this a couple of years ago . He suggested that I bed my Remington in it's HS stock . That was good enough for me .
HS wouldn't supply the bedding compound if there was no value in using it .


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13 December 2005, 19:59
butchloc
you have everything to gain from bedding and nothing to loose - bed the SOB
13 December 2005, 20:34
Jay Gorski
Like I said in my post yesterday, the action fit really good without the bedding compound, but I wanted to "MAKE SURE" everything was covered when I do my test loads in the spring, so I used the bedding compound.
It was really easy, just "knead" the compound until all the little stripes are gone from it, then roll it into a rope and cut into equal lengths, the instructions say, 2, 1 inch and 1 1.5" pieces. But, you don't need the extra 1/2" back by the tang area, it just hangs over and does nothing, in all actuality, all thats needed in the tang area is about 3/4" of the "rope". It won't get compressed as much as the the front part of the action. In the front, make sure you have 2 pieces that are the same thickness and length, then when you take it apart you'll notice how the compound flows to the sides, front and back of the bedding area.
Just make sure you spray the area with cooking spray or wax, per instructions.
Yeah, I'd bed it, even though you put the action on and it seems to fit fine, like mine did, you'll be more confident about the whole thing and what the rifle is capable of doing. They'll be nothing to blame but you if it shoots bad. Big Grin Jay
13 December 2005, 21:12
onefunzr2
My gunsmith, Bobby Hart of Robert W. Hart & Sons, top notch benchrest gun builder extraordinaire said to have my Remington 700 skim beded in Bisonite...H-S Precision is not precision enough to just drop in. Who am I to argue with a wealth of knowledge like that?
13 December 2005, 21:22
Rick 0311
quote:
Originally posted by grizz007:
Rick, if I may inject into this thread - what stock(s) do you prefer that are synthetic? I've a 98 Commercial and am consdering a change-my smith friend mentioned the H-S as well and you're point is sensible.


grizz,

The only synthetic stocks I own are McMillan’s. I just don’t care for the bedding block theory because of the reasons I have stated on here numerous times.

For a hunting or plinking rifle I guess it would probably work fine as a drop-in, but if you’re expecting that block to fit your receiver like a bedded stock...FORGET IT, it ain’t gonna happen.
17 December 2005, 10:00
D99
I bed every stock I own you can never hurt accuracy.
17 December 2005, 20:24
seafire/B17G
quote:
Originally posted by D99:
I bed every stock I own you can never hurt accuracy.


I don't do it, but then, bedding is never going to hurt.... and after paying as much as they want for those stocks.. might as well go all the way.....especially if they supply the bedding compound with the stock...

beer
seafire