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Browning BLR .450 Marlin
21 December 2004, 13:28
NeverflinchBrowning BLR .450 Marlin
I am thinking of buying on of these. The local Gander Mtn. has them for $609.00. Is this a fair price or can someone point me to someplace on the internet where I can get a better deal? I really have no idea what one of these should cost, and it seems they are high on their other rifles which I can compare. Any thoughts on the BLR?
21 December 2004, 14:59
wrongtargetA search on the internet shows they sell for $585-$690. Here's one of em..so $609 is a good price.
http://www.gunsamerica.com/guns/976464750.htm22 December 2004, 04:33
beltloopA point to ponder: these 'new' brownings have pop-can receivers and [heaven forbid] you scratch thru the anodizing.
Why not consider a Marlin in 450...and besides for what your wanting to spend on the browning w/o ammo, etc I
.. can sell you my Marlin Guide gun with lots of ammo, brass and a set of RCBS reloading dies.
so consider this:
the browning only at $600 plus tax and all you have is the rifle or
:
point me to someplace on the internet where I can get a better deal? Your better deal is right here...
My Marlin
450, approximately 125 rounds of f-ammo, a couple of boxes of reloads, 79 once fired cases, dies
...for $565
includes shipping lower 48...
I don't use it, a dust collector in my safe.
22 December 2004, 05:47
NeverflinchThanks for the offer but I have a friend that already owns one, and since we load out ammo together anyway, I can use his dies. He has more brass than he will shoot, so that is really iss not a cost consideration. I just really like the browing gun. That pop can reciever also chambers .300win rounds, so I think on a strength scale it beats the marlin hands down.
Besides I can buy a brand new stainless marlin .450 for $509.00.......but thanks for the offer.
22 December 2004, 10:55
beltloopMarlin does not make a stainless in 450...yet...and I sure hope they do soon...
"I just really like the browing gun."
I can certainly understand that...
I don't think the browning has an aluminum chamber(?) I would guess a steel chamber within an aluminum housing.
Ya can't blame me for trying though...
22 December 2004, 15:52
NeverflinchYea, you're right. It's a 45-70. For some reason I thought it was a .450. It is an aluminum reciever though.
23 December 2004, 03:14
beltloopQuote:
.... It is an aluminum reciever though.
I did not say aluminum receiver I was talking about an 'aluminum chamber'
I do in fact think the Browning chamber is steel in an aluminum 'wrap' ....the steel containing the ignition chamber...the heat would melt the pop-can wrap.
23 December 2004, 08:29
NeverflinchWell Gander Mtn. can kiss my a$$. They tried to sell me the one of the rack(thats the only one they had) with some minor little bumps and nicks on it for FULL price. Not even a 5% discount. What is wrong with these people? I cannot stand stores an sales people who will not even try and work with you. So, I am done with them.
23 December 2004, 16:44
beltloopQuote:
Well Gander Mtn. can kiss my a$$. They tried to sell me the one of the rack(thats the only one they had) with some minor little bumps and nicks on it for FULL price. Not even a 5% discount. What is wrong with these people? I cannot stand stores an sales people who will not even try and work with you. So, I am done with them.
Ya might go back and talk to someone else on a different day. Many times the left-hand does not know what the
right-hand does.
Don't give up just yet, but if you do I'll have my
dy-no-mite 450 Marlin..
24 December 2004, 09:12
mikethebearThe browning receiver is aluminum with what appears to be a strip of steel under the top to attach a scope with. I own 4 of the older BLR's made with steel receivers. The new ones I cannot get excited about. The BLR mechanism is complex and it is held together by taper pins that are put into the receiver. The older ones will last forever given a little bit of care. However I have read that after a lot of use the pins will wallow out the pin holes in the receiver and cause all kinds of problems.
I wish they would go back to the steel receiver. It is one of my favorite rifles.
Also you can get the winchester carbine in 450 marlin. I saw some at Gander Mountain and they seemed well made. However you could get away with a hotter load with the Browning.
24 December 2004, 09:13
mikethebearI meant to say that the pins will wallow out in the aluminum receiver.
24 December 2004, 15:05
jhrosierQuote:
....
I wish they would go back to the steel receiver. It is one of my favorite rifles.
....
I wonder... if enough people asked them real nice?
I just recently got an older BLR .358, steel receiver.
(BTW, It is about new and I only paid about what a current new one would cost. )
What a nice piece of work!
The aluminum ones are just plain ugly.
24 December 2004, 19:46
NeverflinchDon't the look exactly the same?
24 December 2004, 19:48
NeverflinchQuote:
However I have read that after a lot of use the pins will wallow out the pin holes in the receiver and cause all kinds of problems.
Where did you read this?
25 December 2004, 05:10
jhrosierQuote:
Don't the look exactly the same?
No, the actions are longer and wider. I would guess that the aluminum actions haver to be somewhat bigger for strength than the steel ones.
I any case, the lines are just not very graceful(compared to the steel receivered guns). They approach the French MAS36 in the ugly department, but then I like the looks of the Winchester '95, so what do I know?
25 December 2004, 13:18
mikethebearI read about the pins wallowing out their holes either here or at Huntamerica. Possibly 24hourcampfire. It was some time back so it may not still be on this server. I think it was the gunsmith forum, but I am not sure.
I sold quite a few of those last year when I was working at a sporting goods store. Several .358 Wins. One I put an reddot sight on for some guy that hunts pigs down in south texas. I really wish they were steel.
26 December 2004, 02:07
mikethebearActually it could have been at the site which now defunct. It was
www.shooters.com or somthing like that.
29 December 2004, 04:07
al1I have a BLR in a stainless laminate 270wsm. It is a true sub MOA rifle and very well made. I did have to do a trigger job. The chamber is steel and at least the pins that hold the lever and sear in are not tapered. It feeds very well and for some reason the stock just fits me very well. It has much less felt recoil then my Win 270 A bolt.
In general a very good rifle I would buy another.
Good luck
Alan
29 December 2004, 09:32
NeverflinchBy the way this same "gun expert" As I like to call him informed a customer that he should not use 180gr. bullets in the .300wsm that he was buying for deer because they would not EXPAND. Never asked what kind of bullets the guy was shooting, just that he should use 165gr. instead of 180gr. because the 165 would expand and the 180's would pass right through. I almost said something, but I didn't. Who would have thought that 180gr. ballistic tips moving at 3000ft/sec. wouldn't expand? I guess you learn something new evey day.
05 January 2005, 19:28
LAWCOPquote:
Originally posted by Neverflinch:
I am thinking of buying on of these. The local Gander Mtn. has them for $609.00. Is this a fair price or can someone point me to someplace on the internet where I can get a better deal? I really have no idea what one of these should cost, and it seems they are high on their other rifles which I can compare. Any thoughts on the BLR?
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13 January 2005, 12:20
chargertHE MARLIN IS A SUPER GUN, BUT NOT A SUPER CARTRIDGE.iF YOU RELOAD THE 45/70 MAKES THE 450 LOOK LIKE ONE OF THE 20TH CENTURIES BIGGEST LIES
25 January 2005, 03:26
Neverflinchquote:
Originally posted by charger:
tHE MARLIN IS A SUPER GUN, BUT NOT A SUPER CARTRIDGE.iF YOU RELOAD THE 45/70 MAKES THE 450 LOOK LIKE ONE OF THE 20TH CENTURIES BIGGEST LIES
How so? Everyone knows the 45-70 can be loaded hotter than a 450, although the difference is marginal at best. Insignificant would be a better word. Marlin and Hornady freely admit the entire purpose of the 450 was so that higher pressure factory ammo could be produced, without the worry of someone chambering it into an older 45-70 not equipped to handle such pressures. That was the entire purpose of the round....for people shooting factory ammo. Factory .450 ammo is much hotter than any factory 45-70(although the 450 has only one load)How is this one of the 20th centuries biggest lies?
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