The Accurate Reloading Forums
Savage 99 in 30/30 and related questions
24 December 2004, 05:18
MLCSavage 99 in 30/30 and related questions
The local gunshop had a Savage 99 in 30/30 yesterday.
I've been considering a 99 and thought that 30/30 would be a useful caliber.
It was marked as "rare", I was immediately skeptical because one of their employees had already told me that a 41 and 44 magnum took the same bullets.
They also had a 99 in 300 savage with a Lyman peep sight and the leaf sight ground off.
How difficult is it to get a new barrel installed on a 99?
I was considering a barrel chambered for 250/3000 necked up to .264.
24 December 2004, 12:57
beltloopQuote:
The local gunshop had a Savage 99 in 30/30 yesterday.
I've been considering a 99 and thought that 30/30 would be a useful caliber.
It was marked as "rare", I was immediately skeptical because one of their employees had already told me that a 41 and 44 magnum took the same bullets.
They also had a 99 in 300 savage with a Lyman peep sight and the leaf sight ground off.
How difficult is it to get a new barrel installed on a 99?
I was considering a barrel chambered for 250/3000 necked up to .264.
If one of those employees told you the 41 and the 44 mag took the SAME bullets then I've got ocean front property in Maui I will sell you for $0.25 and acre.
Why take these nice rifles and change them...unless of course you plan on keep them till you turn to dust!
24 December 2004, 14:56
jhrosier99's in 30-30 seem to be quite desirable to collectors and fetch a correspondingly high price. NOT a candidate for modification. You can get a brandey new Browning BLR for about $600 if you want the latest calibers.
The .300 Savage 99's are quite common and a good choice as both an investment and a good hunting rifle, IMO. I've seen many available for around $300 in nice shape. The .300 Sav. has performance very close to the .308 Win. and would be a good choice for a deer rifle. The older ones tend to have nicer wood.
OTOH.. The 99 is widely hailed as having the absolute worst stock ever designed for handling recoil.
I would buy any non-detachable clip 99 for a reasonable price, shoot it and enjoy it. In 5 years you can probably double your money, they just don't make guns like that any more.
Jack
25 December 2004, 02:32
ZekeA Savage 99 in 30-30 might be a Savage 1899. Worth more from a collector point of view. If it is a long barrelled model, a handloaded 30-30 could be a pretty good choice. You can handload pointy bullets for the Savage. Much better ballistics and bullet selection. Rebarrelling a fine old classic gun like a 1899 Savage would be a travesty.
I have my Grandads 1950's M99-R 300 Savage. Pretty good gun. Never Bubba'd. Never will be.
ZM
25 December 2004, 09:44
MLCThe one that was for sale in 30/30 was the one I had my eye on.
The only "bubbaing" I'd do on that rifle would be a tang peep sight.
I've shot a 300 Savage and found it to be reasonably comfortable in terms of recoil.
I recall that both rifles were priced around $300, but neither were in fantastic condition.
04 January 2005, 23:51
Just Some Guyquote:
Originally posted by jhrosier:
99's in 30-30 seem to be quite desirable to collectors and fetch a correspondingly high price.
Not quite. It would depend which variation of the 99 it was. Some (actually MOST) of the versions, such as the 1899A, 99H, etc. are VERY common in .30-30. The configuration was never stated.
Rebarreling a 99 is not an easy chore and a gunsmith familiar with the action and types of barrel threads is needed. If you want a .250-3000, just keep shopping. Try and find a Model 99F, or a Model 99 EG or 99 R/RS with factory drilling and tapping (most of the serial numbers above 700K are factory D&T'd).
05 January 2005, 02:24
AtkinsonYour post is screwy my friend...
41 and 44 or not interchangable in any way...
If the rear sight is "ground off" that needs expalaining...the rear sight is in a notch and all you have to do is knock it out and replace it....
The 99 action is not even nearly big enough for a 264 case, so thats totally impossible..
Do those guys sell chewing tobacco in loops, cuz cousin the sure are messed up...
Ray Atkinson
Atkinson Hunting Adventures
10 Ward Lane,
Filer, Idaho, 83328
208-731-4120
rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com
05 January 2005, 02:28
AtkinsonOops got it backwards on the 264, but even at that the problem will be making the 264/350 Sav feed once you change the bullet..The rotary magazine is tricky and you would be much better off to stay with the original caliber in any savage as 99 parts are not longer easily obtainable, and particularly the rotor assembly and they are all different....
Ray Atkinson
Atkinson Hunting Adventures
10 Ward Lane,
Filer, Idaho, 83328
208-731-4120
rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com
05 January 2005, 03:27
Just Some Guyquote:
Originally posted by Atkinson:
The rotary magazine is tricky and you would be much better off to stay with the original caliber in any savage as 99 parts are not longer easily obtainable, and particularly the rotor assembly and they are all different....
Absolutely not. If the wildcat was based on the .250-3000, .300, .308 WCF, etc., the rotor for the parent case would function just fine. The problem arises from going from something like a .30-30 to a round with completely different dimensions.
05 January 2005, 23:42
Dr. DucEven going to different cartridges in the same parent case can be tricky. I have a takedown in 22-250, 250Savage and 300 Savage and it took some fiddling to get it right. Rebarreling is a job for an EXPERT gunsmith.
Wonderful rifles! I love 'em!
Anything Worth Doing Is Worth Overdoing.