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Winchester 1895, 9.3x62,red dot sight
17 January 2016, 07:29
crsheltonVery nice 1895.
Do the elk like it as much as you do?
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Lk HntrI have been using a muzzleloader the last few years, only because it is easier to draw a tag.
17 January 2016, 18:03
Bill/OregonThat's a very capable tool for anywhere in the world.
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17 January 2016, 20:01
Big Wonderful WyomingThere is an American on here that lives in the Czech republic that has a similer rifle.
17 January 2016, 20:12
buckeyeshootervery nice set up
17 January 2016, 20:31
Bill73Very nice rifle,how much does she weigh & how does she shoot?
DRSS
17 January 2016, 20:41
Lk HntrIt weighs 9 lbs with the 24 inch barrel. It is more accurate than I am. With the flat metal buttpad I was afraid to shoot it after 2 shots, It literally felt like someone hit me in the shoulder with a hammer. With this new pad from limbsaver it still has a good push, but it is a joy to shoot.
18 January 2016, 03:33
Idaho Sharpshooterthis isn't the one that was for sale here a couple years ago is it?
18 January 2016, 05:13
Lk HntrI do not know, I did get it off gunbroker a few years back.
20 January 2016, 19:58
AtkinsonSomeone had one like this a year or so ago, I belive it was also chrome plated and bead blasted. It sold as I recall.
I have often thought a mod. 95 SRC in 9.3x62 would be a dandy elk rifle, even purchased one last year in 30-06, but liked it so well with 220 gr. Noslers that I never got around to a rebore, then I sold it as usual!! Yeah, I know, its a character flaw. Wish Id kept it.
Ray Atkinson
Atkinson Hunting Adventures
10 Ward Lane,
Filer, Idaho, 83328
208-731-4120
rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com
20 January 2016, 22:08
Lk HntrI like your idea. I considered shortening the rifle, but it balances just forward of the magazine and makes it easy to hold/carry. I still do most of my hunting on foot, so I do not want the balance shifted anymore to the rear. When I get older and hunt more on a horse than on foot, I still might shorten it. I know the horse carries the weight, but for me it is more convenient with a shorter rifle in a scabbard.
20 January 2016, 23:14
LovesLeversNice set up. Does the red dot ever change point of impact?
20 January 2016, 23:58
Lk HntrIf you do not remove the sight, point of impact does not change (at least not yet). With the 2 screws holding the sight, and 2 posts upfront there is no slack at all, so I do not think it will change when removing the sight only. I will hopefully go shoot it within the next couple weeks and I will let you know. I do know if you remove the plate and reinstall, it can go back on slightly off left or right. I used a dime, gave it a couple of clicks and made sure the tip of the green triangle realigned up with the iron sights.
21 January 2016, 02:13
Bill73I am curious,what other Chamberings can you rechamber one of these guns to?
DRSS
21 January 2016, 03:29
Lk HntrI believe this rifle started as a 270, and was rebarreled. In this case 25-06, 30-06, 338-06, 35 whelen (plus other members of the whelen family), and 9.3x62 can all work if you either rebore or rebarrel. I am sure there are probably more, these are the calibers I am familiar with. I may be wrong, others with more experience will hopefully add more info. I know this does not answer to rechambering.
21 January 2016, 09:16
dpcdYes, these can be rebarreled to any cartridge based on the 30-06 case, and I have even converted 270s and 30-06s to .405. 9.3 is a really good idea, in any rifle.
23 January 2016, 21:01
Lk Hntrdpcd,
Since you have converted 270's/30-06's to 405, do you think a 416 Ruger is doable/practical/safe? I know pretty much nothing about gunsmithing, but I am thinking no, because of the rim difference in 405 Winchester vs the 416 Ruger. The 270/30-06 length and 416 Ruger length are maybe close enough, this would be an awsome big bore levergun if it worked.
Info from other gunsmiths would be appreciated as well.
270 max pressure - 65,000 psi
416 ruger max presssure - 62,00 psi
per wikipedia
23 January 2016, 22:26
Lk HntrWild West Guns in AK did a 416 Ruger on a Browning BLR. I think it was converted from the magnum action with the magnum boltface. I think the Winchester would be classier.
24 January 2016, 19:07
Snellstromquote:
Originally posted by Bill73:
I am curious,what other Chamberings can you rechamber one of these guns to?
400 Whelen!24 January 2016, 20:48
Bill73quote:
Originally posted by Snellstrom:
quote:
Originally posted by Bill73:
I am curious,what other Chamberings can you rechamber one of these guns to?
400 Whelen!
Now that would be a cool gun to have as well,I am presently playing with a 416/348 imp in a win 71,I am getting ballistics pretty close to the 400 Whelen,waiting on the weather to get better so I can take it back to the range,but so far good accuracy with 400 GR bullets going about 2100 fps.
DRSS
24 January 2016, 22:21
Clan_CollaHave owned almost all the original 1895 calibers
and have shot several conversions including the 35 Whelen, 375 Whelen and 411 Hawk-
Really liked the Hawk
http://z-hat.com/411-hawk/30 January 2016, 01:25
SchauckisMy man!
The best for fast situations and bush.
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A.k.a. Bwana One-Shot
31 January 2016, 14:35
MowdyNow that is the gun to replace my 444 marlin and my double o/u 9.3+74r.
01 February 2016, 00:47
SchauckisHow I did it
Take-down
Fitted with the DocterSight II
VERY good for fast shooting... However, not suited for small game and great distance due to the 3 MOA dot.
Lk Hntr's plain style is admirable beautiful! I really respect the originality of the rig. A modern, versatile and usable rifle with but the slightest modifications.
- Lars/Finland
A.k.a. Bwana One-Shot
02 February 2016, 19:05
Lk HntrCool, I wish mine was a takedown model. Maybe the next one, LOL.
23 March 2016, 02:51
AtkinsonLK Hntr,
I found the new Saddle Ring carbine balanced better than the rifle version, it has a lower and upper forend stock that adds weight up front to equel or surpass that 4 inches of barrel metal that's cut off..Give one a heft at your local gun store.
Ray Atkinson
Atkinson Hunting Adventures
10 Ward Lane,
Filer, Idaho, 83328
208-731-4120
rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com
24 March 2016, 05:47
sambarman338Interesting project - kinda steam-punk.
No, I wold not rebarrel one in 416 ruger; it is not the rim that is the problem; it is the increased back thrust; use the Internal diameter to calculate that, not the OD; that has no bearing on it. No pun intended.
Plus, not sure that large case would work in the action. I don't think it would.
25 March 2016, 06:01
Lk HntrLovesLevers,
If you remove the sight only and not the plate, the point of impact does not change.
Atkinson,
Good to know on the carbine, I will have to check one out.
dpcd,
Thanks for the info, I am liking Atkinson's idea of the carbine for a future project, I just have to decide on a caliber.
25 March 2016, 22:38
AtkinsonWell don't buy one in a 30-06 or you will just keep it as is! That's what I hate about the 30-06, I compared the 220 06 to the 9.3x62s 250 and just kept it in 06, bummer!!
Same with my Win. 71, its just an 06 balistically. 180 at 2600, 200 at 2600, 250 at 2300...hate that. oh well I should know by now that if you compare the 06 to anything, your on a down hill run!!
Ray Atkinson
Atkinson Hunting Adventures
10 Ward Lane,
Filer, Idaho, 83328
208-731-4120
rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com
26 March 2016, 06:29
sambarman338quote:
Originally posted by Atkinson:
Well don't buy one in a 30-06 or you will just keep it as is! That's what I hate about the 30-06, I compared the 220 06 to the 9.3x62s 250 and just kept it in 06, bummer!!
You may have point, there. I have often wondered why the 35 Whelen doesn't give much more velocity than the .30-06 with similar weight bullets.
26 March 2016, 16:07
p dog shooterquote:
Originally posted by sambarman338:
quote:
Originally posted by Atkinson:
Well don't buy one in a 30-06 or you will just keep it as is! That's what I hate about the 30-06, I compared the 220 06 to the 9.3x62s 250 and just kept it in 06, bummer!!
You may have point, there. I have often wondered why the 35 Whelen doesn't give much more velocity than the .30-06 with similar weight bullets.
Case capacity
26 March 2016, 19:42
Lk HntrYeah, you gotta love the old 30-06!(at least I do)
13 April 2016, 04:45
AtkinsonIf one wanted a MOd. 95 for shooting Cape Buffalo or even elephant, rebore one to a 10.75x68 and load 350 gr. Barnes X 40 caliber bullets to 2350 FPS or 400 gr. Woodleigh (450-400) 400 gr. bullets to 2150 FPS...Brass from Horneber at Huntingtons..It has a .423 bore (404 Jefferys bullets work)
Its a caliber I have used in Africa and one I have always been fond of..Woodleigh also makes a 347 gr. bullet bullet for the 10.75x68 , but Ive never seen the need to use them as they are too light.
It would be awesome in the Win. mod. 95..Recoil might be a tad rough for some, dunno?
Ray Atkinson
Atkinson Hunting Adventures
10 Ward Lane,
Filer, Idaho, 83328
208-731-4120
rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com
21 April 2016, 04:34
Vol717I had a Remington 760 bored out to 9.3X62. I haven't hunted with it yet but it feeds well.
Quick, Cheap, or Good: Pick Two
21 April 2016, 05:53
N E 450 No2Nice looking rifles.
However, I still think that the best cartridge for the 1895 Winchester is the 405 WCF.
After my trip to Australia shooting their Big Buffalo with 300 gr North Fork Softs and Solids, at standard 405 pressures and velocities I would not hesitate to hunt African Cape Buffalo with it.
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21 April 2016, 07:40
crsheltonWhat NE 450 2 said + 1
Water buffalo bull take with my 1895 .405 with 300 grain NF CPS at 2250 fps.
Summary: Client at Texas exotic ranch brought his single shot 30-06 to hunt medium game and saw bull and had to have it ( more $). PH had no big bore backup and borrowed my .405 with handful of 300 grain NF; he had seen me kill a big water buff cow with same rifle and ammo and knew my rifle and ammo would do the job.
Client failed to hit right place with 30-06 so he killed the bull with .405 frontal shot that penetrated to rear of animal taking out lungs and heart along the way. Such big critters do not die easy if not shot properly.
PS the bull made a beautiful shoulder mount.
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AtkinsonSome of you may recall that Judge G and someone else did some chamber work on their mod 95s in 405 so that 400 gr. bullets could be seated out and that gave them more powder capacity and the gun fed them well, and they got 2000 to 2100 FPS as I recall, and that's right up there with a 450-400-3" and that's an outstanding buffalo caliber, Ive used it a bunch and its my all time favorite buffalo caliber in a double rifle for anything that walks..
The only downside is the m-95 isn't exactly designed to handle recoil well, but we have some mighty tuff birds on this blog that seem content with any amount of recoil..
Ray Atkinson
Atkinson Hunting Adventures
10 Ward Lane,
Filer, Idaho, 83328
208-731-4120
rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com