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21 April 2020, 08:04
Saeed
Weighed v Unweighed Ammo Accuracy
As we are all in a sort of lockdown, and not many people are coming to shoot here, I am having some fun with 22 ammo testing.

I am going to take a box of ammo, and sort the rounds by weight.

I will shoot 3, 5-shot groups each with ammo of exactly the same weight.

I will shoot 3, 5-shot groups, with the ammo of varying weights.

Anyone wishes to guess what the results will be?

Here are some examples of the weights.

1. ELEY TENEX.

50.6 7
50.7 15
50.8 21
50.9 6
51.0 1

2. ELEY SPORT

50.9 4
51.0 6
51.1 23
51.2 14
51.3 1
51.4 2

ELEY CONTACT

52.0 1
52.3 1
52.4 4
52.5 4
52.6 12
52.7 12
52.8 7
52.9 3
53.0 4
53.3 1
53.4 1


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21 April 2020, 09:03
NormanConquest
Bill/Oregon just bought that Martini from SKB + was informed that it performed best with the Eley ammunition. I hope he sees this sight, could be helpful.


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21 April 2020, 09:34
Saeed
The following are the average of 3, 5-shot groups, at 50 yards, Walther KK 200 Match rifle in a Young Machine Rest.

I will post targets when I am done.

1. Eley Tenex

Same weight 0.2243
Different weights 0.2980

2. Eley Sport

Same weight 0.2963
Different weights 0.4480

3. Eley Contact

Same weight 0.3587
Different weights 0.4027

4. Eley Rabbit HV

Same weight 0.4593
Different weights 0.4560


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21 April 2020, 13:00
Saeed
I have tested 16 types of ammo.

10 gave better accuracy with same weight rounds.
6 gave better accuracy with different weight rounds.

1. Eley Tenex

Same weight 0.2243
Different weights 0.2980

2. Eley Sport

Same weight 0.2963
Different weights 0.4480

3. Eley Contact

Same weight 0.3587
Different weights 0.4027

4. Eley Rabbit HV

Same weight 0.4593
Different weights 0.4560

5. Eley Force

Same weight 0.2773
Different weights 0.4240

6. Eley Team

Same weight 0.3760
Different weights 0.5370

7. Eley Match

Same weight 0.4987
Different weights 0.5227

8. Eley Match Biothlon

Same weight 0.6087
Different weights 0.5373

9. Eley Edge

Same weight 0.4097
Different weights 0.2350

10. CCI Stinger

Same weight 0.6557
Different weights 0.5070

11. Lapua Midas Plus

Same weight 0.3720
Different weights 0.3193

12. Winchester Super X Varmint, small game and target

Same weight 0.4517
Different weights 0.5260

13. Federal Champion Value Pack

Same weight 0.6167
Different weights 0.7680

14. Topshot Competition

Same weight 0.4547
Different weights 0.4730

15. SK Standard Plus

Same weight 0.2560
Different weights 0.3707

16. Winchester Wildcat

Same weight 0.6893
Different weights 0.6060


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27 April 2020, 17:38
cgbach
Achieving accuracy with a .22lr is truly a dark art! Back when did not someone sell a gauge to measure .22 rim thickness,implying that consistency here improved accuracy? Since you have moved into the dark sciences you might take a look into this (if you have not done so already).
C.G.B.
21 July 2024, 20:37
Hasher
I would also like to see the weighed ammo test done again with rim thickness gauged va non gauged.


The issue with rim gauging is that the rim can carry slightly in thickness around its circumference, so when measuring you would need to take an average.

In addition I would think you would want to orient the head stamp the same exact time as you fire it so as to reduce as many variables as possible.


Saeed bravo to you for doing this test and thank you for sharing the data.


DRSS
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09 August 2024, 18:34
TomP
When weighing the cartridges, is the lubricant disturbed in handling?


TomP

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13 August 2024, 21:38
Saeed
Every type 22 amok have different lube.

The match ammo generally have oily or waxy lube, which is very consistent from round to round.

Others, like ELEY High Velocity Rabbit brand, uses lots of real hard lube, and very inconsistent.

Of course trying these for accuracy is pointless.

To answer your question.

I just pick the round and weigh it.

Whatever lube on it is weighed too.


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