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CZ 452 american question

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23 June 2009, 01:47
safari
CZ 452 american question
Does the CZ 452 American come with a rubber butt pad of any kind?

Rumor was the safety on the 2009 models would be front/fire, does anyone know if this is true?
23 June 2009, 08:03
Cliff Lyle
Mine is 2 years old but has a plastic butt plate.
23 June 2009, 19:36
Bernie P.
Mines supposed to come in today.I'll let you know.
23 June 2009, 22:29
safari
I would appreciate it, i have been trying to decide on which .22LR bolt action I would like to purchase and am having a rough time. I really like the stock on the CZ but wish the safety worked in the right direction.

I have narrowed it down between the CZ 452 american and an anschutz 1416 D KL classic. I just don't know if the the anschutz is worth twice the money. I know there other high grade rifles but I really don't need an anschutz 1710 or cooper. I would rather take the extra money and put it into a .300 wby by mark penrod. I just want a nice .22 rifle with walnut stock, that is accurate, with a decent trigger.

Let me know what you think of your CZ.
24 June 2009, 02:36
jb
I have 2 and love them both.The safety is really a non issue for me.


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24 June 2009, 17:33
Michael A. Glass
Safari,,

Unless you're in combat (or about to be maulled by tooth and fang), the safety should be a calculated move either forward or back. Usually you have time. And ALWAYS re-engage to safe!!!

Would I like another Anschutz... damn betchya!! But I have to settle for the CZ. Having shot both, the "A" gun is better... but if the CZ shoots 0.5" at 50yds, and the "A" shoots 0.4", the accuracy point becomes moot.

The Anschutz is a target gun at heart, rigged for hunting/plinking, the CZ started out in search of a field in which to play.

You will enjoy either (or both if you have the $$$).

Mike


Si vis pacem... parabellum
24 June 2009, 20:20
Bernie P.
Well once again the dealer had guns come in but once again mine was not among them.Sorry to say but I just got fed up and canceled the order.I'll be going with my other choice the Savage MKII BV.
25 June 2009, 07:32
nordrseta
quote:
Originally posted by Michael A. Glass:
Unless you're in combat (or about to be mauled by tooth and fang), the safety should be a calculated move either forward or back. Usually you have time.
With all respect, we fight the way we train, so we'd better train the way we want to fight. There is much muscle memory that transfers from one long gun to another so having all your safeties in the same place and operating in the same direction is a good idea if it can be arranged.
30 June 2009, 17:13
Michael A. Glass
Lad,

Your comment on training and muscle memory is totally accurate!!! And I would not want to be in a tactical situation w/a gun I have not trained extensively with.

However, I look over the guns I use regularly and find everything from NO safety (Ljutic trap) through, Moss-tang safety, 870-rear trigger guard nob, Win-front trigger guard nob, Ruger pistols - right thumb, Colt target-right index, AR and H&K left side, SKS right side, numerous bolts w/wing safetys.

I cannot, nor will not argue the absolute need for training and the concept of muscle memory. It is vital in dangerous situations. I just wish to point out that consciousness of your situation and your firearm should direct your movements... Don't ask my wife how many times I've pounded the floor w/my left foot looking for the clutch in her automatic!!!! clap

I think it's safe to say that we both advocate safety, training and awareness.

Mike


Si vis pacem... parabellum
01 July 2009, 18:14
DMB
quote:
Originally posted by jb:
The safety is really a non issue for me.


Ditto.
I can work with safeties that operate either way.
I used to ride a BSA motorcycle that shifted gears opposite to all other motor bikes too.




02 July 2009, 03:24
mousegun1
There was an after market safety for this rifle that worked the "Correct"?? direction. I remember seeing them in brownells catalog