quote:Originally posted by Fourtyonesix:
I have checked references of a client before. They tell me two or three horror stories and I email the guides they hunted with to find out the other side. That’s a red flag to me when I hear multiple bad stories in a row…they all only have one common denominator. Lol
quote:Originally posted by 458Win:quote:Originally posted by Saeed:quote:Originally posted by Alaskan Sourdough:quote:Originally posted by Howard:
Phil
What you say about the time for pack out etc makes sense. Considering the logistics of AK hunting I’d find it reasonable and expected that this time takes away from client “hunting” time.
It’s all in clearly communicating expectations on both sides.
My conclusion here is that “trophy fee” doesn’t have a standard definition and specifics need to be obtained from the outfitter in question.
Howard.
Just aware that you may have "Clearly Communicated Expectations" With the Guide who signed the "contract" between you and him. Likely no problems if he/she is actually the person guiding you in the field. That might not work, if you end up in the field with a guide he hired. It could be different then the agreement he/she has with the guide hired.
Shouldn’t the outfitter make sure that the actual guide is well aware of the clients desires??
Absolutely! The guides in the field work directly under the guide/outfitter who signed the contract and Is legally responsible for their conduct. And state law requires the guide/outfitter be in the game unit while the hunt is in progress.
I would say in the industry it's about 50/50 if the outfitter is also guiding clients on hunts themselves. But they have to be in close proximity and personally talk with the client to make sure he was satisfied and sign the end of the hunt report!
quote:Originally posted by Steve Ahrenberg:quote:Originally posted by 458Win:quote:Originally posted by Saeed:quote:Originally posted by Alaskan Sourdough:quote:Originally posted by Howard:
Phil
What you say about the time for pack out etc makes sense. Considering the logistics of AK hunting I’d find it reasonable and expected that this time takes away from client “hunting” time.
It’s all in clearly communicating expectations on both sides.
My conclusion here is that “trophy fee” doesn’t have a standard definition and specifics need to be obtained from the outfitter in question.
Howard.
Just aware that you may have "Clearly Communicated Expectations" With the Guide who signed the "contract" between you and him. Likely no problems if he/she is actually the person guiding you in the field. That might not work, if you end up in the field with a guide he hired. It could be different then the agreement he/she has with the guide hired.
Shouldn’t the outfitter make sure that the actual guide is well aware of the clients desires??
Absolutely! The guides in the field work directly under the guide/outfitter who signed the contract and Is legally responsible for their conduct. And state law requires the guide/outfitter be in the game unit while the hunt is in progress.
I would say in the industry it's about 50/50 if the outfitter is also guiding clients on hunts themselves. But they have to be in close proximity and personally talk with the client to make sure he was satisfied and sign the end of the hunt report!
Phil,
I've never been presented a hunter satisfaction report?
quote:Originally posted by Steve Ahrenberg:quote:Originally posted by 458Win:quote:Originally posted by Saeed:quote:Originally posted by Alaskan Sourdough:quote:Originally posted by Howard:
Phil
What you say about the time for pack out etc makes sense. Considering the logistics of AK hunting I’d find it reasonable and expected that this time takes away from client “hunting” time.
It’s all in clearly communicating expectations on both sides.
My conclusion here is that “trophy fee” doesn’t have a standard definition and specifics need to be obtained from the outfitter in question.
Howard.
Just aware that you may have "Clearly Communicated Expectations" With the Guide who signed the "contract" between you and him. Likely no problems if he/she is actually the person guiding you in the field. That might not work, if you end up in the field with a guide he hired. It could be different then the agreement he/she has with the guide hired.
Shouldn’t the outfitter make sure that the actual guide is well aware of the clients desires??
Absolutely! The guides in the field work directly under the guide/outfitter who signed the contract and Is legally responsible for their conduct. And state law requires the guide/outfitter be in the game unit while the hunt is in progress.
I would say in the industry it's about 50/50 if the outfitter is also guiding clients on hunts themselves. But they have to be in close proximity and personally talk with the client to make sure he was satisfied and sign the end of the hunt report!
Phil,
I've never been presented a hunter satisfaction report?
quote:Originally posted by 458Win:quote:Originally posted by Steve Ahrenberg:quote:Originally posted by 458Win:quote:Originally posted by Saeed:quote:Originally posted by Alaskan Sourdough:quote:Originally posted by Howard:
Phil
What you say about the time for pack out etc makes sense. Considering the logistics of AK hunting I’d find it reasonable and expected that this time takes away from client “hunting” time.
It’s all in clearly communicating expectations on both sides.
My conclusion here is that “trophy fee” doesn’t have a standard definition and specifics need to be obtained from the outfitter in question.
Howard.
Just aware that you may have "Clearly Communicated Expectations" With the Guide who signed the "contract" between you and him. Likely no problems if he/she is actually the person guiding you in the field. That might not work, if you end up in the field with a guide he hired. It could be different then the agreement he/she has with the guide hired.
Shouldn’t the outfitter make sure that the actual guide is well aware of the clients desires??
Absolutely! The guides in the field work directly under the guide/outfitter who signed the contract and Is legally responsible for their conduct. And state law requires the guide/outfitter be in the game unit while the hunt is in progress.
I would say in the industry it's about 50/50 if the outfitter is also guiding clients on hunts themselves. But they have to be in close proximity and personally talk with the client to make sure he was satisfied and sign the end of the hunt report!
Phil,
I've never been presented a hunter satisfaction report?
When was the last time you hunted with a guide in Alaska?
And with whom ? Those laws have been in effect for over a dozen years
quote:Originally posted by Fourtyonesix:quote:Originally posted by Steve Ahrenberg:quote:Originally posted by 458Win:quote:Originally posted by Saeed:quote:Originally posted by Alaskan Sourdough:quote:Originally posted by Howard:
Phil
What you say about the time for pack out etc makes sense. Considering the logistics of AK hunting I’d find it reasonable and expected that this time takes away from client “hunting” time.
It’s all in clearly communicating expectations on both sides.
My conclusion here is that “trophy fee” doesn’t have a standard definition and specifics need to be obtained from the outfitter in question.
Howard.
Just aware that you may have "Clearly Communicated Expectations" With the Guide who signed the "contract" between you and him. Likely no problems if he/she is actually the person guiding you in the field. That might not work, if you end up in the field with a guide he hired. It could be different then the agreement he/she has with the guide hired.
Shouldn’t the outfitter make sure that the actual guide is well aware of the clients desires??
Absolutely! The guides in the field work directly under the guide/outfitter who signed the contract and Is legally responsible for their conduct. And state law requires the guide/outfitter be in the game unit while the hunt is in progress.
I would say in the industry it's about 50/50 if the outfitter is also guiding clients on hunts themselves. But they have to be in close proximity and personally talk with the client to make sure he was satisfied and sign the end of the hunt report!
Phil,
I've never been presented a hunter satisfaction report?
On our hunt report we are required to do a follow up with the client I believe might be what your calling the satisfaction report. It’s not a formal form just a conversation that takes place.