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Shotgun for bear protection.

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04 November 2007, 06:06
RMiller
Shotgun for bear protection.
Here is the shotgun for bear protection.

http://www.winchesterguns.com/support/video/1442sx3.wmv

12 rounds in 1.44 seconds.


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04 November 2007, 07:06
Joel/AK
Dang, chop that bbl down to about 18" and it would be great.

1.4seconds, thats fast.


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04 November 2007, 08:19
gumboot458
...I thot we went around this ,,shotgun, bear protecion topic last winter ...


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04 November 2007, 10:05
RMiller
Don't remember seeing this shotgun. How long has the super x3 been out?


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05 November 2007, 05:36
jdollar
at least 3-4 years


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05 November 2007, 05:58
The Slug
I assume the shooter in the demonstration is firing with light birdshot. How fast do you think one could accurately fire with heavy magnum buckshot loads or slugs?


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05 November 2007, 06:18
Dan H
Must be some porting....muzzle doesn't come up at all.

Dan
05 November 2007, 07:10
RMiller
What is light bird shot ?

1 ounce load at 1200FPS?

one ounce of 000 buck is 7 pellets instead of 9. Twelve of these could sever a bears head clear off its neck. How about twelve shots of split shots on a steel cable.

This is only for warm weather though. I have seen auto shotguns that will only cycle about once ever second when it is freezing out!!!

For me the ultimate bear protection would be an M1 Garand and a 10-20 round mag full of 200 partitions. But this is not a shotgun. This thread is about shotguns.


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05 November 2007, 08:40
rnovi
quote:
Originally posted by RMiller:

For me the ultimate bear protection would be an M1 Garand and a 10-20 round mag full of 200 partitions.



Nahhhh. Bore it out .35 Whelen and go with 250 gr. A-Frames!


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05 November 2007, 08:43
RMiller
Nice.

9.3x62 and 286 barnes TSX


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05 November 2007, 20:50
OLBIKER
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For me the ultimate bear protection would be an M1 Garand and a 10-20 round mag full of 200 partitions. But this is not a shotgun. This thread is about shotguns.[/QUOTE]

M1 Garand`s only hold 8 rounds.You must be referring to a M14.Better yet would be a Chain Gun.
05 November 2007, 20:58
Copidosoma
Eeker

I'd LOVE to see someone fire that with magnum rounds or slugs.

rotflmo

I suspect the first 2 MIGHT hit the bear.
06 November 2007, 07:58
The Slug
quote:
Originally posted by RMiller:
What is light bird shot ?

1 ounce load at 1200FPS?

one ounce of 000 buck is 7 pellets instead of 9. Twelve of these could sever a bears head clear off its neck. How about twelve shots of split shots on a steel cable.

This is only for warm weather though. I have seen auto shotguns that will only cycle about once ever second when it is freezing out!!!

For me the ultimate bear protection would be an M1 Garand and a 10-20 round mag full of 200 partitions. But this is not a shotgun. This thread is about shotguns.


A 1-ounce load of 00 buck or a slug with 3" mags is going to kick a Hell of a lot more tham what he was shooting. You might be able to shoot it as fast but I doubt it's going to be very controllable after the first couple of shots. I've seen guys use this very model at 3-gun matches fire very fast with lighter loads but when it came time for slugs it was a different story.


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06 November 2007, 09:27
RMiller
Federal makes a low recoil load of 00 buck in a 2 3/4 shell.

9 pellets at @1200 fps.

This should like a target load of 1 1/8 shot at 1200 which were the lightest 12 guage loads I could find.


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07 November 2007, 08:47
The Slug
quote:
Originally posted by RMiller:
Federal makes a low recoil load of 00 buck in a 2 3/4 shell.

9 pellets at @1200 fps.

This should like a target load of 1 1/8 shot at 1200 which were the lightest 12 guage loads I could find.



Would you want to use that load for bear protection? I know I wouldn't. Give me some good full-power Brenekes and I'll gladly shoot just a tad slower.


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