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AK24053200
Location: Wrangell
Type: Wildlife Investigation
Dispatch Text:

UPDATE: On Feb. 13, 2025, with assistance from the Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife, 41-year-old Jacob Vibbert of Cheney, Washington was issued a summons to appear in Wrangell District Court. Vibbert was charged with taking a mountain lion near Wrangell on June 3, 2024 when there was no season or bag limit to take a mountain lion. He is scheduled to be arraigned on March 4 in the Wrangell District Court.

ORIGINAL: On June 3, 2024, at approximately 8:00 pm, the Alaska Wildlife Troopers became aware that a mountain lion was shot on Wrangell Island. The Alaska Wildlife Troopers, Alaska Department of Fish and Game, and US Forest Service responded and took possession of the mountain lion. An investigation is ongoing into the circumstances surrounding the mountain lion’s death.

Posted on 6/12/2024 8:12:35 AM by DPS\ajmcdaniel

Posting Section: AK Wildlife Troopers

Is a mountain lion a listed game animal n Alaska?

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Originally posted by 505 gibbs:
Is a mountain lion a listed game animal n Alaska?

Vibbert was charged with taking the mountain lion during a time when there was no established season or bag limit for hunting the species. The incident was reported at approximately 8 p.m. that evening when Alaska Wildlife Troopers, the Alaska Department of Fish and Game, and the U.S. Forest Service responded to the scene.

Makes me wonder if it was shot in self-defense.

Or claimed to be.

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Vibbert was charged with taking the mountain lion during a time when there was no established season or bag limit for hunting the species. The incident was reported at approximately 8 p.m. that evening when Alaska Wildlife Troopers, the Alaska Department of Fish and Game, and the U.S. Forest Service responded to the scene.

That’s my point (or question), not sure how it works in Alaska, but where I’m from, if it’s not a game animal controlled by the State (I.e. there is a listed season, limit or tag), or it is not under some other protection (I.e. Federal), I can shoot it anytime and don’t have to give a reason.

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Originally posted by 505 gibbs:

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Vibbert was charged with taking the mountain lion during a time when there was no established season or bag limit for hunting the species. The incident was reported at approximately 8 p.m. that evening when Alaska Wildlife Troopers, the Alaska Department of Fish and Game, and the U.S. Forest Service responded to the scene.

That’s my point (or question), not sure how it works in Alaska, but where I’m from, if it’s not a game animal controlled by the State (I.e. there is a listed season, limit or tag), or it is not under some other protection (I.e. Federal), I can shoot it anytime and don’t have to give a reason.

There are a few states like that.

Some states have, if is not list it is protected.

Not enough info The fact that it took 8 months to issue the summons makes me wonder.

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Originally posted by 505 gibbs:

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Vibbert was charged with taking the mountain lion during a time when there was no established season or bag limit for hunting the species. The incident was reported at approximately 8 p.m. that evening when Alaska Wildlife Troopers, the Alaska Department of Fish and Game, and the U.S. Forest Service responded to the scene.

That’s my point (or question), not sure how it works in Alaska, but where I’m from, if it’s not a game animal controlled by the State (I.e. there is a listed season, limit or tag), or it is not under some other protection (I.e. Federal), I can shoot it anytime and don’t have to give a reason.

Look up the species you want to hunt and check for an open season - if it is open, you may hunt it. If the species is not listed, you may NOT hunt that species.

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Originally posted by 505 gibbs:

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Vibbert was charged with taking the mountain lion during a time when there was no established season or bag limit for hunting the species. The incident was reported at approximately 8 p.m. that evening when Alaska Wildlife Troopers, the Alaska Department of Fish and Game, and the U.S. Forest Service responded to the scene.

That’s my point (or question), not sure how it works in Alaska, but where I’m from, if it’s not a game animal controlled by the State (I.e. there is a listed season, limit or tag), or it is not under some other protection (I.e. Federal), I can shoot it anytime and don’t have to give a reason.

Non Native Species get shot period!

In the areas you all reference, how do they handle “varmints”? Rats, gophers, skunk, coyotes, etc.?

Impossible, there are no Mountain lions in Alaska.

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Originally posted by 505 gibbs:
In the areas you all reference, how do they handle “varmints”? Rats, gophers, skunk, coyotes, etc.?

Coyotes year-round no limit. Only SKUNKS IN ALASKA ARE politicians & rats year-round. no gophers

Wisconsin some species are listed as non-protected.

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Originally posted by 505 gibbs:

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Vibbert was charged with taking the mountain lion during a time when there was no established season or bag limit for hunting the species. The incident was reported at approximately 8 p.m. that evening when Alaska Wildlife Troopers, the Alaska Department of Fish and Game, and the U.S. Forest Service responded to the scene.

That’s my point (or question), not sure how it works in Alaska, but where I’m from, if it’s not a game animal controlled by the State (I.e. there is a listed season, limit or tag), or it is not under some other protection (I.e. Federal), I can shoot it anytime and don’t have to give a reason.

Not here, unless it is declared “open” one can be cited for killing it.

A species either has a season and bag limit or is listed as open. Otherwise, you technically cannot kill it. I have seen folks cited for killing common candles that are not designed open or a season.

Right now in KY the only open, the last time I looked, was coyotes; turtles but not alligator snappers, and groundhawgs.

We even have a season on possums and skunks. There is one type of skunk you are not permitted to kill in KY.

Pigs are expressly prohibited.

Don’t forget crows will have seasons too. Here there is a process to obtain depredation permits. We can’t just shoot crows out of season because we have a corn patch.

Other nuisance animals a person must get permission from a Commissioner:

approved by the commissioner, who kill or trap on their lands any wildlife causing
damage to the lands or any personal property situated thereon shall not be required
to have a hunting or trapping license and may do so during periods other than the
open season for the particular species without a tag and dispose of the carcass on-
site. Tenants, their spouses, their dependent children, or other persons approved by
the commissioner, shall also have the same privilege. Upon destruction of any
wildlife by the above-specified individuals, the act shall be reported to a game
warden within twenty-four (24) hours of the kill. Individuals wishing to transport
the carcass from the property upon which it was killed shall contact personnel of the
department to request a disposal tag or other authorization. Inedible parts from
wildlife taken under the authorization of this section shall not be utilized for any
purpose and shall be destroyed or left afield. The department shall promulgate
administrative regulations establishing procedures for the designee appointment
process, including request and approval deadlines.

Technically, legally one in KY can’t just shoot or trap skunks, possums, or weasels and such just because you are a landowner w a chicken house.

Wow, KY sounds like the land of micromanagement.

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Pigs are expressly prohibited.

They will regret this one day

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Originally posted by 505 gibbs:
Wow, KY sounds like the land of micromanagement.

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Pigs are expressly prohibited.

They will regret this one day

Just another only experts can handle a problem.

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Originally posted by 505 gibbs:
Wow, KY sounds like the land of micromanagement.

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Pigs are expressly prohibited.

They will regret this one day

Doubtful, the issue was folks trapping and transporting pigs to shoot.

Mountain Lions are pretty small compared to that Siberian Tiger that has been showing up around Dillingham about this time for the past few years

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Originally posted by 458Win:
Mountain Lions are pretty small compared to that Siberian Tiger that has been showing up around Dillingham about this time for the past few years

Very much so