Buffalo

15 February 2003, 02:34

outlawbill

Buffalo

Does anyone know when the next buffalo hunt is with Rodney? We have about 10 guys that would like to go. We have been hearing alot about Bighorn!

15 February 2003, 06:02

Badboyz

Outlaw Bill, what part of NM are you from. Using Leaco, would it be Hobbs or Lovington? I'm out of Carlsbad and we are looking at putting together another group to go down. Six of us tooks cows about a month ago.

[ 02-14-2003, 21:06: Message edited by: Badboyz ]

15 February 2003, 08:10

outlawbill

Badboyz
We are from Carlsbad also. Could you give us any information on the hunt?

15 February 2003, 08:33

Badboyz

Bet you heard about this hunt at the Sheriff's Posses Tuesday night meeting. I have a sneaking feeling that I just gave Rodney's phone # to someone to pass along to you. (Grin)

15 February 2003, 08:38

Badboyz

By the way, just because someone that we know shoots them in the river, that doesn't mean that you need to bring any scuba gear to hunt!!!

15 February 2003, 08:57

outlawbill

You are talking to the scuba guys wife, and yes we heard about it at the sheriffs possee

15 February 2003, 09:01

Badboyz

I sent you an email with some of the details on the hunt. It is definitely a lot of fun. We just got finished eating some buffalo chili here at work.

15 February 2003, 09:06

outlawbill

Great! Ill tell mr. Scuba to get a hold of you.
The phone just rang and it was your Dad(small world)

15 February 2003, 16:39

<Bighorn Hunting 1>

Hey everyone sorry I don't want to send any emails out right now because I have some sort of virus killing the computer lol.... We are getting more buffalo in daily. Please call us for more info or you can get with badboyz and he will let you know all about it. Thanks,Rodney 830-589-7667

16 February 2003, 03:42

Neal Rea

Hello everybody! Another Carlsbad boy here! Buffaloe hunting wow that sounds like a lot of fun. Better check my wallet and see if I can go on that hunt myself one of these days. Talking about filling your freezer. Outlawbill and badboyz small world. I live off of Old Cavern Hwy on Chuckwagon Rd. Good to meet some local hardcore hunters. This is great.

16 February 2003, 03:51

Neal Rea

I should of said this on my first post but forgot. If anybody from this area needs another man to fill the 5 man group rate let me know and I will go. Thanks!

16 February 2003, 15:11

TCLouis

How come none of you folks from NM are on the NM hunting group/forum at:

http://gilamonster.proboards6.com/index.cgi

Seems like a varied group and more "outsiders" than folks from NM.

LouisB

Just an opinion of course [Roll Eyes]

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16 February 2003, 19:39

Zippy The Pinhead

Just out of curiousity, what should one expect to pay for a buffalo hunt?

I ask because I am a member of Wilderness Unlimited (a California/Oregon-based hunting "club") and I saw in a recent flyer that I could go and shoot a buffalo up on a ranch in Oregon for $2000.

To me, that seems like a lot of money, but then again, what do I know?

How much meat can one reasonably expect to obtain from an average buffalo?

16 February 2003, 19:52

Neal Rea

TCLouis, didn't know anything about it but will check it out now. Thanks for the heads up.

17 February 2003, 05:47

TCLouis

Zippy

Just a guess, but I'd say that, like the chinchilla, llama, Belgian horse, ostrich, emu, alpaca and a whole list of other animals that were going to make their owners rich beyond their wildest dreams, the buffalo is losing that bloom of major profits (or any profit) and so "hunts" are a way for the owners to recover costs.

A web search will yield several possibilites I would guess.

From what I have seen the price is HIGHLY varible and one should check on ALL the details before committng.

Bunch of meat in one, but then there is probably 150 pounds of bone in there too.

Make sure you use a 223 or smaller to make it interesting.

National Public Radio (NPR) had a somewhat whiny coverage of Buffalo hunting several weeks ago. More "fair" than one would expect from them! [Roll Eyes]

LouisB

19 February 2003, 03:25

Badboyz

Neal,

We would always be glad to have a new person go along with us. I will send you an email with details when I get a chance.

19 February 2003, 13:14

Neal Rea

Badboyz, thanks for the offer. I just couldn't hardly stand it so I went ahead and booked a hunt with another guy. The group rate isn't allowed anymore. It's a strait $600.00 now plus the guide and lodgeing fees. Still an excellent deal and will be leaveing this Thursday 20th to hunt this weekend. Hopefully with two Buffs. I will take mine to Payne Packing in Artesia to have it processed if successful. Would love to hear the details of your hunt. I'm taking a digital camera so I can post some pics somewhere on the net. Good luck.

16 March 2003, 11:30

Atkinson

Zippy,
My Buffalo Bull hunts run $2750.00 all inclusive of guide, 5 star lodgeing and food, all hunts are conducted on foot for mature bulls and they are wild and will challange you to the core both phyically and mentally....Each hunter has about 10 miles by 5 miles of mountain country to hunt.

My hunt is a hunt, not a shoot, and for that you pay more, a shoot will run you $600 to $800 or you can go to a salebarn, buy a buffalo for about $300. and take it out someplace and kill it, I see little difference in that and some hunts offered in the USA for Buffalo where they are hunted on small acres or in alfalfa pastures, a disgusting practice to my mind, but to each his own......

My Buff last year packaged up 892 lbs of meat...He was a very large bull with a fine robe and it took 3 days of hard hiking and climbing to kill him, with many failed stalks in between....

17 March 2003, 13:01

<Bighorn Hunting 1>

We also have large buffalo bulls for 1500.00 no sense in spending much more that. This is a challenging hunt to anyone.This ranch is located in Comfort texas and is very thick brush country. We have other ranches with buffalo but most of our bulls our located there. Let us hear from you soon. Thanks,Rodney

19 March 2003, 17:08

JohnTheGreek

Zippy,

IMHO Truly proper buffalo hunts are few and far between. For the money, Ray's option is pretty close to the "real deal". For a truly wild bison hunt without waiting 20 years to draw a tag, you can expect to pay between $4000 and $7000 USD. If you have any questions. Feel free to email me.

Best Regards,

JohnTheGreek

19 May 2003, 04:18

two canoes

jtg-u got to be kidding--4-7k for a buff hunt--u been readin to many comic books. i can get u 800-1200.00 hunts most any place.

20 May 2003, 03:48

JohnTheGreek

Two Canoes,

I said "hunt" not "shoot" [Roll Eyes]

. There is a world of difference that you will experience if you ever actaully "hunt" this animal. For $4-$7K you are actually hunting WILD bison in a totally "real deal" free roaming environment. To be honest, the hunt is cheaper than most proper elk hunts, yields more meat and the hunt is every bit the experience if not more of one. Most of these hunts take place in Canada (Either the Yukon or NWT) or there is one in the states that I know of and will likely be undertaking this winter.

Best Regards,

JohnTheGreek

17 June 2003, 03:57

NitroX

quote:
Originally posted by Bighorn Hunting 1:
.... We are getting more buffalo in daily. ....

Just a question, where are these buffalo hunted, before or after they get off the truck?

17 June 2003, 07:01

Badboyz

And this from a continent without a native big game species? [Big Grin]

17 June 2003, 18:28

NitroX

Its probably easier to "hunt" them on the truck as then it makes it easier to transport the carcases to your trailer home.

18 June 2003, 02:30

Badboyz

"Trailer Home"? Actually, I believe that the proper term here for those that choose that form of abode would be "trailer house".

I believe that the ranch could also import donkeys and camels for those that are accustomed to hunting that type of vermin. [Big Grin]

Smile Nitro,its all in good fun. [Wink]

18 June 2003, 04:25

NitroX

OK not tongue in cheek.

I still can't see how the shooting of "buffalo in daily" can in any words be described as hunting? [Frown]

Why not just shoot a tame cow? Just as much challenge. [Roll Eyes]

PS I do not there are wild buffalo hunts but if buffalo are dropped in on a daily basis to replenish shot animals isn't this just one of the worst examples of canned "hunting".

18 June 2003, 04:35

Badboyz

These hunts are not being marketed so much as being a "challenge" as they are for the opportunity to harvest the 350-500 lbs of lean meat. Bison meat is quite tasty and I use it in all my recipes that call for red meat. I harvested a bison at Rodney's last year and had a good time. But, I also live in the Rocky Mountain West, so I have other native species that could be hunted as a challenge.

We just used it as an opportunity to go out and have a little off season fun, kind of like shooting an 1100 lb varmint. Beautiful country down there in that part of Texas. But heck, I would shoot kangaroos, donkeys and camels as varmints if I had the chance, so I'm probably not a good judge. [Big Grin]

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22 June 2003, 04:59

NitroX

Badboyz

I suppose if it is just harvesting some meat but I wouldn't call it hunting.

Just like shooting a cow, yes I have done it but it was two metres away and probably had a name. Still tasted good [Big Grin]

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I've hunted deer that have been released into the wild and not shot them for disgust as they were so unwary I preferred to take a lesser truly wild trophy. They will "wild up" after a while though - say 12 months.

"Camels, donkeys and kangaroos" - sound like varmints to me too [Wink]

23 June 2003, 11:08

Mickey1

quote:
Originally posted by Badboyz:
"Trailer Home"? Actually, I believe that the proper term here for those that choose that form of abode would be "trailer house".

I believe that the ranch could also import donkeys and camels for those that are accustomed to hunting that type of vermin.

Smile Nitro,its all in good fun.

Very Good. [Big Grin]

I especially like the inferance that Australians can also be accommodated. [Wink]

Perhaps a new Double could be tested.

I do believe the correct term though is 'Pre-Manufactured Mobile Home'

25 June 2003, 23:40

NitroX

quote:
Originally posted by Mickey1:
[QUOTE]I especially like the inferance that Australians can also be accommodated. Perhaps a new Double could be tested.

I do believe the correct term though is 'Pre-Manufactured Mobile Home'

Mickey

I would love to test out the new double on a roving bison, perferably wild and running loose though.

27 June 2003, 04:56

Mickey1

NitroX

A Bison should be shot with a traditional cartridge. Black Powder, maybe an old Sharps or Winchester lever in a 45-70, 45-90 or such. Perhaps an Old English Blackpowder rifle. [Wink]

There is a reason that millions of them were killed in a short period by what we would consider inadequate weapons. Wariness and intellegence are not normally associated with Bison.

Now a nice Australian Water Buffalo hunt, that would be the place to try out two new Doubles. [Big Grin]

28 June 2003, 02:20

NitroX

quote:
Originally posted by Mickey1:
Now a nice Australian Water Buffalo hunt, that would be the place to try out two new Doubles.

I have been thinking about that for 2004. The new "un" wants to taste some blood [Razz]

06 July 2003, 09:32

bighornhunting1

Hey I am still here. Hard to have time to sit down and keep in touch. Still hunting and still have bison cows. We have several new places we are hunting now. We also have several specials going on. Lets get up another group.

08 July 2003, 06:08

Canuck

quote:
Originally posted by JohnTheGreek:
Most of these hunts take place in Canada (Either the Yukon or NWT)

Don't forget Northern BC (around Pink Mountain/Sikanni Chief).

Cheers,
Canuck