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travel to Africa via ship
22 May 2015, 00:07
Pa.Franktravel to Africa via ship
Anyone ever done this?
I've heard that most freighters do have a limited number of rooms available for passengers, and given the "steerage" class accommodations you get on most airlines these days, a trip by sea just might be kinda fun.
Anyone ever done anything like this? anyone ever looked into it?
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22 May 2015, 21:03
ChiefenNo modern cargo vessels have this, was pretty comon a long time ago but those ships are now rebar or nails.
The regulations are still there, a cargo vessel can have up to 12 passengers in international trade without all teh requirements of a "passenger vessel" (doctor, hospital, morgue, additional catering crew), but shipping is all about money and you would not want to pay the required kind of it.
22 May 2015, 22:33
Charlie64.
Great idea!
Friends of ours - upon retiring here in Lagos - returned to Europe from Lagos to Amsterdam. 4 weeks.
Most vessels do have the accommodation - albeit rough - and often take passengers in 1s and 2s. Food and catering tends to be very simple and aimed at Asian crews and there is little more to do than walk / jog the decks, read and watch the limited number of available DVDs!
Ex colleague did same but from Bremerhafen to Cape Town!
Cheers
Ps Pretty ok as regards price
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23 May 2015, 00:04
DuckearI was looking into this a few years ago.
Very possible to do.
The only unknown would be transporting rifles. That will be either very hard or very easy. Likely the former.
A few links…..
https://www.freightercruises.comhttp://www.freighter-travel.comhttp://freightertrips.comhttp://flightlesstravel.com/plan/cargo-ships/http://www.gonomad.com/1560-freighter-travel-faqs
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23 May 2015, 00:05
Duckearquote:
Originally posted by Chiefen:
No modern cargo vessels have this, was pretty comon a long time ago but those ships are now rebar or nails.
The regulations are still there, a cargo vessel can have up to 12 passengers in international trade without all teh requirements of a "passenger vessel" (doctor, hospital, morgue, additional catering crew), but shipping is all about money and you would not want to pay the required kind of it.
See my post above. Your assumptions are mostly incorrect.
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23 May 2015, 03:43
Gatogordoquote:
Originally posted by Chiefen:
No modern cargo vessels have this, was pretty comon a long time ago but those ships are now rebar or nails.
The regulations are still there, a cargo vessel can have up to 12 passengers in international trade without all teh requirements of a "passenger vessel" (doctor, hospital, morgue, additional catering crew), but shipping is all about money and you would not want to pay the required kind of it.
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23 May 2015, 22:34
Chiefen25+years in the international shipping industry; I know this cant be done.
First stop is the vessels P&I; they would go ballistic of the idea.
The way round this is what we ship officers do when/if familliy is joining us for a voyage; they are signed on as crew with a pay of $1day. But this requires them to have a medical examination, seamannsbook and for some flags basic safety training.
There are a few cargo vessels wich brings passengers, but they are certified and manned as "passenger vessels".
23 May 2015, 22:42
Charlie64.
Better tell our friends that they shouldnt have done it then
No idea what lines you were with but Maersk and CMA CGM let cabins on ships all the time. And I am not talking about Med cruise ships but freighters. Bit of paperwork and waivers but readily doable !
Cheers
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the three companies we asked when we wanted to sail from Europe to NA were good to deal up to the firearms discussion ... it was a no no ...
26 May 2015, 14:15
Jan Dumonquote:
Originally posted by Duckear:
The only unknown would be transporting rifles.
doing a spot of Pirate hunting on the way ?
26 May 2015, 14:35
johnfoxquote:
Originally posted by Chiefen:
25+years in the international shipping industry; I know this cant be done.
First stop is the vessels P&I; they would go ballistic of the idea.
The way round this is what we ship officers do when/if familliy is joining us for a voyage; they are signed on as crew with a pay of $1day. But this requires them to have a medical examination, seamannsbook and for some flags basic safety training.
There are a few cargo vessels wich brings passengers, but they are certified and manned as "passenger vessels".
It may not be done in Norway, but the option is very much alive in other parts of the world including mine.
http://www.flightlesstravel.com/plan/cargo-ships/Last year I flew JFK to Joberg to Maun. I had a non TSA lock on my bag and a TSA lock on my ammo box in the bag. Went through TSA and the Port Authority police, who were very friendly, and I was waiting at the gate when the Port Authority police officer came to see me.
He asked for the key to the lock on my bag. Seems someone wanted to inspect the ammo further and he didn't want them to cut the lock. Nice guy. He returned shortly with my key and everything was good to go.
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26 May 2015, 18:47
Duckearquote:
Originally posted by Jan Dumon:
quote:
Originally posted by Duckear:
The only unknown would be transporting rifles.
doing a spot of Pirate hunting on the way ?
The ammo wt limit would really suck, as it would be poor form to show up in SA with no ammo left!
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