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10 March 2014, 21:16
PSmith
Lost Firearm
Mike, great news.

Just wait until you get the rifle back from Wayne. Then you will really love it.


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11 March 2014, 01:04
subsailor74
quote:
Originally posted by Beretta682E:
Have the gun in my possession.

As happy as i can be - its my birthday and getting back the rifle was the best birthday present.

Delta did charge me $50 for international custom - i did not want to fight with them. Gave them my cc and got the paperwork. Us customs in orlando were great.

Now the gun heads to Wayne at ahr for a new stock, metal bottom, bolt and refinishing.

Mike


Good to hear Mike! So what ever happened to your V-C double?
11 March 2014, 02:03
BulldogMaster
quote:
Originally posted by zwickie1:
Mike – Great to hear. Glad you were able to get your rifle back.

All/Larry – Was definitely not trying to start a kangaroo court, I believe that many could learn from my experience. After reading over my post again I feel I left out a couple of items as well:

1) Delta – Delta would not help me because we had filed a missing bag claim with Air Namibia. Air Namibia would not help us because Delta had lost the bags and had never received them from Delta. It was a vicious cycle trying to get into contact with anyone who would help. If you could get anyone on the phone with Delta, they would immediately say I’m sorry you filed a claim with Air Namibia please contact them and hang up on you. With Air Namibia’s $425 claim, we would have had to sign a liability release to get it. We respectfully declined.

2) Travel Agent – I don’t know that it is important who it was. You can read others reports and there are only basically two travel agents who handle 90% of Safari’s. If its not Gracy then it’s easy to figure out. I know many of you and it’s not a secret who it is, I have willingly shared that info. I have a very well documented email correspondence with them. In fact they emailed me after one month and told me they were to busy to help me out anymore. I never once received a communication correspondence from them that was not initiated by myself. I had to phone, email, hold, call back multiple times a day to get them to respond. A simple email or phone call that, “here is the status of where we are at”, would have been nice. If I am traveling with guns I will use Gracy.


Maybe they should rename the company - "Travel Without Guns" for all the help you got.

Happy ending!
11 March 2014, 03:34
Beretta682E
Admiral - the VC double is in PA at my gunsmith - I need to order a scope mount from Ken. Will do it this week.

Mike

quote:
Originally posted by subsailor74:
quote:
Originally posted by Beretta682E:
Have the gun in my possession.

As happy as i can be - its my birthday and getting back the rifle was the best birthday present.

Delta did charge me $50 for international custom - i did not want to fight with them. Gave them my cc and got the paperwork. Us customs in orlando were great.

Now the gun heads to Wayne at ahr for a new stock, metal bottom, bolt and refinishing.

Mike


Good to hear Mike! So what ever happened to your V-C double?

11 March 2014, 03:58
Highlander7
Glad to hear you they are back in your possession.


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11 March 2014, 06:44
LionHunter
Glad the guns are home! tu2


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12 March 2014, 01:48
zwickie1
quote:
Originally posted by BulldogMaster:
quote:
Originally posted by zwickie1:
Mike – Great to hear. Glad you were able to get your rifle back.

All/Larry – Was definitely not trying to start a kangaroo court, I believe that many could learn from my experience. After reading over my post again I feel I left out a couple of items as well:

1) Delta – Delta would not help me because we had filed a missing bag claim with Air Namibia. Air Namibia would not help us because Delta had lost the bags and had never received them from Delta. It was a vicious cycle trying to get into contact with anyone who would help. If you could get anyone on the phone with Delta, they would immediately say I’m sorry you filed a claim with Air Namibia please contact them and hang up on you. With Air Namibia’s $425 claim, we would have had to sign a liability release to get it. We respectfully declined.

2) Travel Agent – I don’t know that it is important who it was. You can read others reports and there are only basically two travel agents who handle 90% of Safari’s. If its not Gracy then it’s easy to figure out. I know many of you and it’s not a secret who it is, I have willingly shared that info. I have a very well documented email correspondence with them. In fact they emailed me after one month and told me they were to busy to help me out anymore. I never once received a communication correspondence from them that was not initiated by myself. I had to phone, email, hold, call back multiple times a day to get them to respond. A simple email or phone call that, “here is the status of where we are at”, would have been nice. If I am traveling with guns I will use Gracy.


Maybe they should rename the company - "Travel Without Guns" for all the help you got.

Happy ending!



Ding, Ding, Ding we have a winner.
12 March 2014, 04:04
JGRaider
quote:
Originally posted by zwickie1:
quote:
Originally posted by BulldogMaster:
quote:
Originally posted by zwickie1:
Mike – Great to hear. Glad you were able to get your rifle back.

All/Larry – Was definitely not trying to start a kangaroo court, I believe that many could learn from my experience. After reading over my post again I feel I left out a couple of items as well:

1) Delta – Delta would not help me because we had filed a missing bag claim with Air Namibia. Air Namibia would not help us because Delta had lost the bags and had never received them from Delta. It was a vicious cycle trying to get into contact with anyone who would help. If you could get anyone on the phone with Delta, they would immediately say I’m sorry you filed a claim with Air Namibia please contact them and hang up on you. With Air Namibia’s $425 claim, we would have had to sign a liability release to get it. We respectfully declined.

2) Travel Agent – I don’t know that it is important who it was. You can read others reports and there are only basically two travel agents who handle 90% of Safari’s. If its not Gracy then it’s easy to figure out. I know many of you and it’s not a secret who it is, I have willingly shared that info. I have a very well documented email correspondence with them. In fact they emailed me after one month and told me they were to busy to help me out anymore. I never once received a communication correspondence from them that was not initiated by myself. I had to phone, email, hold, call back multiple times a day to get them to respond. A simple email or phone call that, “here is the status of where we are at”, would have been nice. If I am traveling with guns I will use Gracy.


Maybe they should rename the company - "Travel Without Guns" for all the help you got.

Happy ending!



Ding, Ding, Ding we have a winner.



That's piss poor service in my book. I don't see a problem at all with naming names when someone gets screwed.
26 March 2014, 19:54
Capt. Purvis
I was on a delta return flight from Joburg two years ago and there were about ten hunters on the plane. Only four of us got our guns in Atlanta. I am sure that most of them got their guns on a later date. One guy lost a Holland and Holland side by side. That would be an expensive loss.


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26 March 2014, 20:01
Caracal
Glad you got it back tu2

quote:
Originally posted by Beretta682E:


Has anyone lost a rifle returning from Africa?


Yes 3times

quote:

Has anyone ever lost a firearm in the airline baggage system?

Yes 3times

quote:
Has anyone been completely compensated for lost firearms and other accessories in the gun case?

Got it back 2times after 1 or 2 days. Lost it once completly still waiting for a compensation, which I'll never get.

2 Things I learned:
- Never take an expensive gun on a plane.
- All Airlines are useless when it comes to rifles!

Dennis


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26 March 2014, 21:09
McKay
This happens with me literally 50% of the times I fly with guns. Never lost any forever though. Usually they show up in 2-3 weeks. I have insurance and usually just put my booking agent on it and go on with life till they show up. Tried handling all the calling myself and it was just a hassle. I let the pros find my lost guns now.


Mac

26 March 2014, 21:16
drj
What insurance company do you recommend since you have dealt with them before?


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26 March 2014, 21:28
McKay
Core-Vens. Never needed to go through with a claim as my guns always turned up.


Mac

26 March 2014, 21:41
Beretta682E
quote:
Originally posted by Caracal:
Glad you got it back tu2

quote:
Originally posted by Beretta682E:


Has anyone lost a rifle returning from Africa?


Yes 3times

quote:

Has anyone ever lost a firearm in the airline baggage system?

Yes 3times

quote:
Has anyone been completely compensated for lost firearms and other accessories in the gun case?

Got it back 2times after 1 or 2 days. Lost it once completly still waiting for a compensation, which I'll never get.

2 Things I learned:
- Never take an expensive gun on a plane.
- All Airlines are useless when it comes to rifles!

Dennis


+1

Mike
26 March 2014, 23:43
TrophyShotPrints
quote:
Originally posted by JGRaider:
quote:
Originally posted by zwickie1:
quote:
Originally posted by BulldogMaster:
quote:
Originally posted by zwickie1:
Mike – Great to hear. Glad you were able to get your rifle back.

All/Larry – Was definitely not trying to start a kangaroo court, I believe that many could learn from my experience. After reading over my post again I feel I left out a couple of items as well:

1) Delta – Delta would not help me because we had filed a missing bag claim with Air Namibia. Air Namibia would not help us because Delta had lost the bags and had never received them from Delta. It was a vicious cycle trying to get into contact with anyone who would help. If you could get anyone on the phone with Delta, they would immediately say I’m sorry you filed a claim with Air Namibia please contact them and hang up on you. With Air Namibia’s $425 claim, we would have had to sign a liability release to get it. We respectfully declined.

2) Travel Agent – I don’t know that it is important who it was. You can read others reports and there are only basically two travel agents who handle 90% of Safari’s. If its not Gracy then it’s easy to figure out. I know many of you and it’s not a secret who it is, I have willingly shared that info. I have a very well documented email correspondence with them. In fact they emailed me after one month and told me they were to busy to help me out anymore. I never once received a communication correspondence from them that was not initiated by myself. I had to phone, email, hold, call back multiple times a day to get them to respond. A simple email or phone call that, “here is the status of where we are at”, would have been nice. If I am traveling with guns I will use Gracy.


Maybe they should rename the company - "Travel Without Guns" for all the help you got.

Happy ending!



Ding, Ding, Ding we have a winner.



That's piss poor service in my book. I don't see a problem at all with naming names when someone gets screwed.



Yikes!!! I thought this was a highly reputable company from all the reviews here over the years. Thanks for sharing your experience!