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07 June 2021, 04:19
tom mason
Question: Biesen butt plate
If you can find one; What are Biesen Checkered Steel Butt Plates going for?
07 June 2021, 05:25
rglenz
Gun parts had a some for $100.00 a couple of years ago.
08 June 2021, 03:54
Duane Wiebe (CG&R)
You can easily quadruple that price. When I was making them, no trouble getting $400.00...but at that price, still about minimum wage.

The air is just damn thin...which surprises me...$400.00 in a custom is lost in the round up/
08 June 2021, 04:44
DArcy_Echols_Co
I agree with Duane completely and once again I kick the bee hive and bring up custom bottom metal and magazine assemblies.

A well designed assembly/unit/package/system call it what you will from an engineering standpoint represents on 3rd of the rifles design and functional capabilities and still we have the vast majority of people bitch about the cost of said units but might, just might spend $ 400 on a butt plate

Again it boggles the mind as to priorities
08 June 2021, 04:51
RogersGunWorks
quote:
Originally posted by DArcy_Echols_Co:
I agree with Duane completely and once again I kick the bee hive and bring up custom bottom metal and magazine assemblies.

A well designed assembly/unit/package/system call it what you will from an engineering standpoint represents on 3rd of the rifles design and functional capabilities and still we have the vast majority of people bitch about the cost of said units but might, just might spend $ 400 on a butt plate

Again it boggles the mind as to priorities


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08 June 2021, 06:27
rglenz
I wasn't looking for a butt plate at the time but bought them. I was a bit surprised that, for size, Biesen's butt plates match the old MS trapdoor plates, only the bottom hole differs.
08 June 2021, 17:46
tom mason
Thanks guys! I think I will hold on to the one I have for now.
09 June 2021, 04:08
Duane Wiebe (CG&R)
quote:
Originally posted by rglenz:
I wasn't looking for a butt plate at the time but bought them. I was a bit surprised that, for size, Biesen's butt plates match the old MS trapdoor plates, only the bottom hole differs.



Well...Not the ones I've seen. The Biesen is narrower at the toe and the MS has a deeper curvature.. Biesen made a darn good buttplate, but the MS handles recoil better.
10 June 2021, 00:31
rglenz
Duane, thanks for correcting me. The butt plate in question was advertised as Biesen and purchased with a Biesen checkered trap plate,(which I no longer have) it is no doubt an MS.
10 June 2021, 20:27
Mike Ray
are you talking about a curved steel checkered buttplate , or a trapdoor buttplate.


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10 June 2021, 22:21
Fal Grunt
A friend and I have been looking at producing these from a hot forging to reduce machine time.

Any thoughts?


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11 June 2021, 03:36
tom mason
I'm not talking about a trap door model. I found a trap door model Biesen and a Biesen 2 screw grip cap on a Rifle I discovered for $650 in a Pawn shop.
15 June 2021, 22:32
Duane Wiebe (CG&R)
Max Mc Farlane is making damn fine looking butt plate...Don't believe he is making a trap door model.

I think it's cast, but so precise I can't be sure. (just judging by photos).

Making a fine buttplate is well withn the skill levels of many, just making them by setting a price and work backwards is the failure part
22 June 2021, 04:55
Vol717
When Biesen was still making them I bought two for from him for $100 each. I asked him how he got the trapdoor to match the hole so perfectly. He said he punched them out of the plate. Is that how they were made, or was he pulling a young man’s leg?


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28 June 2021, 19:51
Duane Wiebe (CG&R)
While they were lunched...close exam will show the joint is sort of a cold forging to bring the match up close to prefect.

Same idea used to make that smoke tight fit on side locks