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What about a 2 bbl set in .275 Rigby and 9.3x62?

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25 January 2024, 18:39
dogcat
What about a 2 bbl set in .275 Rigby and 9.3x62?
What would you think about a two barrel, take down set up in 275 Rigby and 9.3x62 ????
25 January 2024, 19:15
bluefish
Ask Ray Atkinson he did it.
25 January 2024, 20:38
dogcat
Ray has done just about everything....
25 January 2024, 22:27
dpcd
That combination would be perfect. However, switch barrel set ups are fine but why not just get two rifles.
Switch barrels will never be sighted in with the same scope. Just a lot of trouble for little gain. Ok, they will fit into a smaller box; what does that gain? I see the appeal; just understand the drawbacks. And they are expensive.
26 January 2024, 00:12
Biebs
Ross, a Blaser would do that just fine :-)
26 January 2024, 02:51
Duane Wiebe (CG&R)
I agree with dpcd. I have done a few switch barrels.. In the end I always wonder "Is this really worth it"

Having said that. a custom maker is there to make the wishes of the client a reality.
26 January 2024, 17:34
Arniet
One short term exception, right now while we can buy extra BLR barrels, you can build a multi barrel set pretty darn cheap. I think (spreadsheets are on a different machine) about $500.00 per caliber, including the rebore. They accept scout scopes, or use detachable mounts on the receiver, for each scope. No tools required to switch. Handy, fit in a small case for light sport planes.

I have 300 win mag, 338 win mag and 375 Taylor. All headspaced from the factory, just like AR's.

The big drawback, is if the gun breaks, you got nothing. With two guns you still have one. However with 2 BLR's if one breaks, you still have all the barrels.
27 January 2024, 00:08
Atkinson
All I have is photos as I sold the gun for lots of green! It all started on the AR classified with an add for a trashed Brno mod 21 rifle, broken stock, metal in almost poor condition and parts missing. The 8x57 bore was more pits than metal..I had a rough Brno mod 21 with a good barrel in 7x57 and very accurate, rebored the 8x57 to 9,3x62 and had Dennis Olson build a wrench for the locking lugs to unscrew barrels, Now the amazing part of God is great, both barrels shot together with most any load and the stock was glued together and glassed for a pattern. Worked with scope and irons, says bingo for Brno workmanship..I had a beautiful very dark almost black Russian walnut that I sent to Dennis along with turned blank that I used to turn the original SR Brno (G33340) stock for a pattern stock..Got it all together built the stock and it was perfect rifle in ever respect topped off with custom Talley bases and QD rings by Jack Belk, both barrels had the Brno original irons and scred into position witha tap of the wrench, another first for Brno...Best gun I ever owned and greed lost it to me, even knowing I could never repeat one like it..I had a packet on my gun belt made for the wrench. The gun had to remove the stock to switch due to the iron sights...took two Brno mod 21s to build so not a worthwhile project to some, and the idea of a switch barrel doesn't suit me at all.
Just m two bits! wave


Ray Atkinson
Atkinson Hunting Adventures
10 Ward Lane,
Filer, Idaho, 83328
208-731-4120

rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com
27 January 2024, 20:40
Hasher
All I need to do is figure out how to make a 275 Rigby barrel for my Sauer 200.

Only way I can think of is to find another .243 barrel and send it to JES.


DRSS
Kreighoff 470 NE
Valmet 412 30/06 & 9.3x74R
28 January 2024, 00:17
Duane Wiebe (CG&R)
I pretty much disapprove of having to rely on any tools to take apart a take down or switch barrel.

I Remember Gary Goudy frantically trying to find a proper allen wrench to take apart a Dakota at the end of a gun show so he could pack it to go home.

Heard second hand of a hunter with a taken apart Dakota with the same problem. Word is that he climbed a mountain planning to assemble the rifle topside...For what it's worth!
28 January 2024, 08:06
Hasher
I do t swap barrels on my Sauers when I’m hunting. I’ll just put the 2nd barrel on another action.

Heck even 2 rifles are a paid in the rear to manage on a single safari.


DRSS
Kreighoff 470 NE
Valmet 412 30/06 & 9.3x74R
28 January 2024, 10:31
p dog shooter
quote:
However, switch barrel set ups are fine but why not just get two rifles


Unless one is limited by law.

A second rifle is the way to go.

I have owned several multilabel barreled firearms.

Sold most of them and replaced with with several one caliber firearms.
29 January 2024, 00:21
Stokes
I'd stick with two different guns.

Even more.... if I wanted that combination, I'd not mark the 7x57 as a Rigby. A metric set is a metric set. Seems off to try to borrow some pretension from the Rigby name when paired up with a metric designation.
29 January 2024, 03:23
Duane Wiebe (CG&R)
....What the hell ? A 275 Rigby has been called a 275 Rigby for decades What's the point ?

A 30-06 has been called (and stamped on many a barrel) as 30 Govt 06 and a few other designations.

404 Jeffery aka 404 Rimless.. ????? (etc)
31 January 2024, 09:49
Hasher
When I built my 275 Rigby I decided to be extra pretentious.


It’s marked 275 Rigby Ackley Improved.


DRSS
Kreighoff 470 NE
Valmet 412 30/06 & 9.3x74R
31 January 2024, 19:36
Mike Scott
7x57R and 375 H&H Flanged Magnum
31 January 2024, 20:43
Duane Wiebe (CG&R)
Hat's off to the smith that can make that combination feed
01 February 2024, 02:12
Aaron Little
quote:
Originally posted by Duane Wiebe (CG&R):
Hat's off to the smith that can make that combination feed


You must have run out of that magic virgin fairy dust….


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02 February 2024, 01:20
custombolt
Somehow, after reading these posts 'want' comes to mind more than 'need'. Sounds like a dandy combo for a switch barrel. OK. Maybe a .375 H&H over a 9.3X62.


Life itself is a gift. Live it up if you can.
02 February 2024, 21:31
Scrollcutter
Is not the 275 Rigby set up for the 140 gr. bullet in the throat and 7 x 57 throated for the 175 grain bullet? Almost a different cartridge!


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02 February 2024, 22:02
xausa
I solved the switch barrel problem to my satisfaction in 1970, when I was living in Germany. I placed an order for a Krieghoff "Teck" O/U double rifle with interchangeable barrels in calibers .458 Winchester Magnum, .375 H&H Magnum and 20 gauge 3" Magnum. The rifle accompanied meon all of my African hunts and never failed to perform as either a rifle or a shotgun. (Lots of guinea fown and doves!)
02 February 2024, 23:28
Duane Wiebe (CG&R)
quote:
Originally posted by Aaron Little:
quote:
Originally posted by Duane Wiebe (CG&R):
Hat's off to the smith that can make that combination feed


You must have run out of that magic virgin fairy dust….


HEE HEE HA HA HO HO
02 February 2024, 23:47
Duane Wiebe (CG&R)
quote:
Originally posted by Scrollcutter:
Is not the 275 Rigby set up for the 140 gr. bullet in the throat and 7 x 57 throated for the 175 grain bullet? Almost a different cartridge!




Hmmmm...That's what I thought for some time..can't prove it or disprove, BUT....Their new 275 Rigby (from Rigby) is marked 275 Rigby- 7x57.

I am told the Hornady brass, that apparently was ordered by Rigby is stamped likewise.

Lee Le Bas is going to ty and find an annswer from Rigby, but he tells me the twist is for the lighter bullet.
03 February 2024, 03:15
Michael Robinson
quote:
Originally posted by Duane Wiebe (CG&R):
quote:
Originally posted by Scrollcutter:
Is not the 275 Rigby set up for the 140 gr. bullet in the throat and 7 x 57 throated for the 175 grain bullet? Almost a different cartridge!


Hmmmm...That's what I thought for some time..can't prove it or disprove, BUT....Their new 275 Rigby (from Rigby) is marked 275 Rigby- 7x57.

I am told the Hornady brass, that apparently was ordered by Rigby is stamped likewise.

Lee Le Bas is going to ty and find an annswer from Rigby, but he tells me the twist is for the lighter bullet.


The twist is not different but the chambering is.

I had Rigby throat my rifle for the 7x57, which is a different, longer throated CIP cartridge than the .275 Rigby.


Mike

Wilderness is my cathedral, and hunting is my prayer.
03 February 2024, 23:08
Duane Wiebe (CG&R)
Yep: you are right...I think the article in Guns and Ammo (2022) by Massaro is well thought out.

Bottom Line: If you have a rifle chambered for a truly CIP dimensioned 275 Rigby, the chamber designation must read " 275 Rigby HV" (high velocity

That's the way CIP shows it

An interesting note: CIP shows higher pressures for the 7x57 than the 275 Rigby

And as far as Rigby's "275 Rigby-7x57" designation? Can only mean it's simply chambered for 7x57...the rest is smoke and mirrors.

Plenty of that in the gun business.
04 February 2024, 03:59
Michael Robinson
quote:
Originally posted by Duane Wiebe (CG&R):

And as far as Rigby's "275 Rigby-7x57" designation? Can only mean it's simply chambered for 7x57...


The strange thing is that Rigby chambers its rifles for the .275 Rigby, not the 7x57, but they mark their rifles ".275 Rigby/7x57", which is wrong.

A Rigby (or any other) rifle chambered in .275 Rigby will chamber and fire 7x57 rounds loaded with light weight bullets, up to 140 grains, but will not chamber most 7x57 rounds loaded with longer, heavier bullets.

That is why I specifically ordered my rifle from Rigby with a longer throated 7x57 chamber. They were happy to accommodate.


Mike

Wilderness is my cathedral, and hunting is my prayer.
04 February 2024, 20:21
Duane Wiebe (CG&R)
Really? I can see some stumbler forcing a 175 gr 7x57 in the chamber and touching it off.

Pretty irresponsible in my opinion
05 February 2024, 00:23
Michael Robinson
The odd thing is that they somehow pass proof testing in the London proof house.


Mike

Wilderness is my cathedral, and hunting is my prayer.
05 February 2024, 03:44
Duane Wiebe (CG&R)
That's confidence building!~
05 February 2024, 16:42
gasgunner
oh no, it's the 223/5.56 debate all over again. That one has been going on for 60 years and shows no sign of slowing down.

John
05 February 2024, 18:04
Jmbrown
The takedowns may not be for everyone, but I sure love mine.




05 February 2024, 20:22
Duane Wiebe (CG&R)
quote:
Originally posted by gasgunner:
oh no, it's the 223/5.56 debate all over again. That one has been going on for 60 years and shows no sign of slowing down.

John


Agreed...and the "fix" is so simple
05 February 2024, 23:43
SDH
Gorgeous set Jmbrown, is that Duane's work?


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06 February 2024, 01:11
Jmbrown
Thanks SDH! Nope that’s a Dakota 76 Traveler I picked up last fall.
14 February 2024, 05:36
custombolt
Yes JM. Very nice blank choice with lots of consistent figure play. How does it shoulder with the abrubt pad corners?


Life itself is a gift. Live it up if you can.
14 February 2024, 19:38
Jmbrown
quote:
Originally posted by custombolt:
Yes JM. Very nice blank choice with lots of consistent figure play. How does it shoulder with the abrubt pad corners?


Thanks! It shoulders great for me. The pad corners have never been an issue. It shoots very well and returns to zero very consistently.
22 April 2024, 22:10
Atkinson
I had no problem with the brno 7x57 and the 8x57 barrels, both Brno originals (the 8x57 rebore to 9.3x62...EXCEPT switch barrel guns are pretty and neat and totally a worthless idea in the first place for a number of reasons.


Ray Atkinson
Atkinson Hunting Adventures
10 Ward Lane,
Filer, Idaho, 83328
208-731-4120

rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com
24 April 2024, 08:45
Hasher
I am going to go out on a limb here and disagree with Ray a bit.

Switch barrel guns and switching barrels
On a hunt is a bad idea I completely agree.

However where you have an action and multiple barrels in day 243 for antelope or those puny southern deer and then later for deer season you can move to an 06 barrel (of course you have to rezero) and then either keep the barrel on for elk season or move to another caliber for elk such is the 9.3x62.

I know there was a move afoot in WA to limit how many firearms you can own and a switch barrel would be a way around this. Also some European countries where you are limited.

I have 3 switch barrel rifles and 7 barrels I can swap between them for any occasion.


DRSS
Kreighoff 470 NE
Valmet 412 30/06 & 9.3x74R