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11 June 2021, 14:36
vapodog
need advice
I'm building four guns all at the same time. This may be a norm for some custom builders but I'm not a professional at this at all.....I merely have fun with it.

Here is three stocks from ash that was grown on the family farm in southern Minnesota.




Here's my problem: 1. Can anyone tell me where to get these sling swivel studs? Brownells is out of them and has been for quite a while.



and 2. what forend checkering pattern do you advise for this upcoming stock? It's a .257 Roberts and shoots superbly.





[url=https://ibb.co/DY2dqWN]



I'd like to see your checkering on your custom guns so I can get some ideas.


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11 June 2021, 15:30
MNR
Wayne from American Hunting Rifles posted awhile back that he made a batch of Ken Howell style sling swivels. Also I spoke with Sunny Hill about a month ago and they're going to start making the Dakota style which is more like what you have pictured.

Nice looking stocks BTW. That ash is really pretty.


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11 June 2021, 15:43
vapodog
quote:
Originally posted by MNR:
Wayne from American Hunting Rifles posted awhile back that he made a batch of Ken Howell style sling swivels. Also I spoke with Sunny Hill about a month ago and they're going to start making the Dakota style which is more like what you have pictured.

Nice looking stocks BTW. That ash is really pretty.

Thanks for posting. I tried in vain to find either of the folks mentioned to no avail. Can you show some links to see what they have on hand in the sling swivel studs?


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11 June 2021, 16:27
slivers
Dave Talleys' web site shows sling swivel mountings in the "Gunsmithing" section. You have to call Sunny Hill, not everything he has is on-line. Many of the smaller shops that make high equality components don't have on-line ordering or inventory counts of what they have. NECG has a line of some interesting bases, too.


11 June 2021, 18:33
MNR
Sure thing. Here's the AHR site link: https://americanhuntingrifles.com/shop/
As Slivers mentioned you have to call Sunny Hill. I'm not sure that he's made any yet as when I spoke to him they were still getting them up and going.
quote:
Originally posted by vapodog:
quote:
Originally posted by MNR:
Wayne from American Hunting Rifles posted awhile back that he made a batch of Ken Howell style sling swivels. Also I spoke with Sunny Hill about a month ago and they're going to start making the Dakota style which is more like what you have pictured.

Nice looking stocks BTW. That ash is really pretty.

Thanks for posting. I tried in vain to find either of the folks mentioned to no avail. Can you show some links to see what they have on hand in the sling swivel studs?



www.mnrcustom.com
https://www.facebook.com/MNR-C...LLC-485145854894639/
11 June 2021, 19:46
Duane Wiebe (CG&R)
You might want to look over the Recknagel website...they have very nice bases about the same size
11 June 2021, 21:12
vapodog
Great.....I found exactly what I want at Talley's website.....I called them and three sets are on their way. Now I don't have to set up a mill and make my own!

Now, if I can get some photos of forend checkering to give me ideas..... such as these


<a href="http://https://ibb.co/vkyx5Sc" target="_blank">


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11 June 2021, 21:38
Kolo-Pan
nice stuff Vapodog. And a nice choice for sling swivel studs as well.
But if you are going to go with the nice swing swivel studs go ahead and replace the wood (or plastic) grip caps with some nice metal ones.


KJK
12 June 2021, 00:20
vapodog
quote:
Originally posted by Kolo-Pan:
nice stuff Vapodog. And a nice choice for sling swivel studs as well.
But if you are going to go with the nice swing swivel studs go ahead and replace the wood (or plastic) grip caps with some nice metal ones.

Some of these adornments are walnut root wood and some are ebony. The root wood gets so dark with the tru oil finishing I use that one almost can't tell the difference. Here's the reason.....all of this wood is grown on the family farm in southern Minnesota including the root wood. Only the ebony grip caps and forend tips are purchased......so I have a personal touch with the wood as it's from trees I climbed as a kid 65 years ago. I take the stocks to the Amish in Wisconsin for kiln drying.

Having said that, I'm open to new stuff so can you make recommendations for a metal grip cap. I'm all ears. BTW.....plastic is verboten on my guns as is any stain


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12 June 2021, 01:42
Kolo-Pan
Vapodag

Good stuff!


KJK
12 June 2021, 02:43
LesBrooks
You are beginning to learn how to match up the styles of grips and forends.

Let me comment on the checkering patterns. The lines of the grip doesn't flow like the lines of the checkering. The curve of the lines should be matched close and not appear as far back from the
side view of the grip curve. On pointed patterns they are referred to an open ends until you get to the end with the lines. A closed end pattern will have a clear line to get to normally a carved line. Study other stockmakers checkering and styles. The grip cap on a flaired style doesn't go with the round style stock. The classic style would look better with a steel grip cap.

I hope you don't get too mad at my comments, but things stand out and some of us might be able to help.

Les Brooks,
12 June 2021, 06:21
vapodog
quote:
Originally posted by LesBrooks:
You are beginning to learn how to match up the styles of grips and forends.

Let me comment on the checkering patterns. The lines of the grip doesn't flow like the lines of the checkering. The curve of the lines should be matched close and not appear as far back from the
side view of the grip curve. On pointed patterns they are referred to an open ends until you get to the end with the lines. A closed end pattern will have a clear line to get to normally a carved line. Study other stockmakers checkering and styles. The grip cap on a flaired style doesn't go with the round style stock. The classic style would look better with a steel grip cap.

I hope you don't get too mad at my comments, but things stand out and some of us might be able to help.

Les Brooks,

Les, I thank you for your comments as they are sincerely constructive. While I don't completely understand your comments about the checkering pattern, I will be looking for a steel grip cap for future builds.


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12 June 2021, 19:54
butchloc
horn makes a nice gripcap
14 June 2021, 09:15
vapodog
quote:
Originally posted by butchloc:
horn makes a nice gripcap

Thanks for the tip.....


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27 June 2021, 19:20
Kolo-Pan
https://www.24hourcampfire.com...6-bolt-action#UNREAD

Vapodog - Here is a guy looking for a rifle with a Maple stock. Maybe you have something you want to sell.


KJK
28 June 2021, 06:15
Clayman
Well, that's just great. Now I'm super into ash stocks! What beauties!


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