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Metal protection. What do you prefer?
09 September 2016, 18:31
customboltMetal protection. What do you prefer?
I'm concerned about the odor of oils such as Hoppe's Protectant and how deer might be deterred from the smell.Which one best describes how you protect your blued steel rifle parts from moisture while hunting? Feel free to elaborate with your own recipe or choose more than one.I use any firarm oil I have on hand.Deer can't smell petroleum products.I never use a thing to protect against rust.I use a good quality paste wax, odor is minimal.I use Brand X oil as it has no odor.
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09 September 2016, 20:01
shootawayI don't worry about the odor.If conditions will be wet or humid I will bring an oily rag along and a bore snake or the equivalent.
09 September 2016, 21:35
larrysI voted the last choice since mine is not really there. I oil or protect the rifle long before I go afield. That allows the product to dry and I don't worry about it in the field. I wipe the rifle down at the end of the day to get moisture off, but nothing more.
If I expect to go somewhere it is going to rain for days, I take the Teflon or cerakoted rifles anyway.
Larry
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10 September 2016, 03:16
farbedoI oil my firearms as needed through the season and don't care what it smells like. My favorite are Bull Frog tool wipes. If the deer can smell the oil, they can smell me holding the rifle.
The main thing, as I see it, is that deer have to associate a smell with danger. Unless they were wronged by an oil can, I doubt they know the smell. Now if you leave a trail of odor to and from your stand, that can change the deer's pattern. But, they are smelling human odor off your boots, gloves, and clothing.
Jeremy
10 September 2016, 07:30
TREE 'EMI use W30 non-detergent motor oil per the recommendation of my double gun smith.
Deer will smell you and spook long before they have concerns about other odors. Play your wind right and keep still when they are looking. Nothing else matters.
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10 September 2016, 10:24
Idaho SharpshooterKroil...
10 September 2016, 18:42
Chuck NelsonEezox, CorossionX, or Frog Lube.
10 September 2016, 21:28
Don MarkeyI think it was outers that made cheap little cleaning kits that had scent free oil and cleaner. I bought 5 at cabelas in the bargain cave for a few buck each. That is the oil and cleaner I use in my deer rifle. Don't know if deer can smell it, I can't so why not. Not sure if it is still available.
Don
10 September 2016, 22:56
customboltThanks gentlemen. Nuthin' like a few extra angles to something to stimulate the senses. Good stuff as usual. CB
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11 September 2016, 03:41
drhall762I voted the last one but in reality I use a thin coat of RIG. Put it on, wipe it off, the film remains. No moisture gets in. I once had to store several of my firearms in a non-climate controlled environment. Hot summers with humidity, cold winters. Cleaned them thoroughly, coated all metal surfaces in RIG and wrapped them like mummies in freshly laundered cotton torn in 2" strips. When I came back and unwrapped them, not a single one had a speck of corrosion.
I swear by it.
Dave
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12 September 2016, 20:31
customboltThanks for the link Don.
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14 September 2016, 11:29
A7DaveI use Thompson/Center Wonderlube (same stuff they use for black powder patches). They have some that smells like pine trees, but I use the original. Smells kind of wintergreeny. It is a waxy kind of stuff and I rub it into every metal part I can get it on. I hunt that way in Alaska and keep the tube with me in case it rubs off.
Water will bead up and the metal will not rust. It can be removed by wiping it off once the hunt is over and all traces removed with a cloth and a bit of windex. I'm sure deer wouldn't care about the smell. No matter what we do, we stink to deer. Stay down wind.
Dave
14 September 2016, 16:12
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14 September 2016, 19:49
customboltThis is interesting in that about half who voted do prefer a low or no odor.
How many of you trust your product from being washed out in a downpour?
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14 September 2016, 22:01
dwheelsEezox I've been using it for years. Then I saw this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZf1ntC8r5014 September 2016, 22:12
dwheelsSorry guys, This test dosn't include Eezox but there is one on there somewhere.
16 September 2016, 13:39
ozhunterIf the game can smell the lube then you have other problems.
I use BALISTOL.
16 September 2016, 22:56
ZekeShikarBreakfree is what I use and have not had any issues.
If the weather is dry and dusty I wipe it on and wipe it off as needed. If the weather is wet, I wipe it on once per day and let it stay. Takes about 10 seconds to care for a gun.
Zeke
17 September 2016, 01:00
flyloTo protect the wood & metal I use Renaissance micro-ctystalline wax polish which is used & I think developed for the British Museum used even on paintings. I use it in the machine shop also. It's about $17 for 200ml on Amazon but lasts forever. For lubing moving parts I use Kroil. Froglube is organic & will spoil & mold.
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19 September 2016, 10:39
Ray BI agree with Dave (above) re RIG. I remove the stock from the rifle, put a coat of RIG everywhere I can see, then wipe it all off, leaving a thin coating. Then I shoot a little CLP breakfree on contact points in the trigger and places that the grease might cause problems. Reattach the stock and bring on the rain.
20 September 2016, 00:35
BoxheadI went on a brown bear hunt in SE Alaska this past spring using my SS Win M70 375 H&H. I used Dyna Bore Coat in the barrel and coated the exterior with their Dyna Shield. The rifle spent many hours in the rain and two full dunks in the sea. I did nothing to the rifle during the 12 day hunt. Upon returning home I went in for a thorough cleaning. The trigger, the bottom side of the floorplate, the Weaver rings and bases had rust. All places I forgot to coat. The rest of the rifle was fine. With this, I am hooked on the stuck. Oh, and no smell and pretty permanent too.
21 September 2016, 01:02
customboltSounds like a really good time on the coast. I'm thinking of grabbing a couple cans of that compressed gas they use on electronics and keep one in the truck for deer hunting to get most of the water out of the hard to get to places.
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21 September 2016, 02:12
Duane Wiebe (CG&R)quote:
Originally posted by Boxhead:
I went on a brown bear hunt in SE Alaska this past spring using my SS Win M70 375 H&H. I used Dyna Bore Coat in the barrel and coated the exterior with their Dyna Shield. The rifle spent many hours in the rain and two full dunks in the sea. I did nothing to the rifle during the 12 day hunt. Upon returning home I went in for a thorough cleaning. The trigger, the bottom side of the floorplate, the Weaver rings and bases had rust. All places I forgot to coat. The rest of the rifle was fine. With this, I am hooked on the stuck. Oh, and no smell and pretty permanent too.
I found this product under "dyna-tek"
21 September 2016, 05:46
airgun1I didn't vote because my choice really wasn't there.
#1. I coat my in the stock metal with RIG. I use Hoppe's or Outer's gun oil on exposed surfaces 99% of the time.
2. I sometimes spray the entire gun, wood and metal with Lemon Pledge before hunting in the winter.
3. I will coat with Johnson's paste wax on a rainy day.
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26 September 2016, 16:18
Heym SR20I just use some rangoon oil and give a good wipe over before going out and dry it off as soon as I am able. If really wet rifle stays in a rifle slip until it is needed.
As regards smell - its an irrelevance - if the deer are upwind they wont smell you, if they are downwind they will and frankly they can smell your breath, sweaty armpits and feet as well as the firearm, your food etc. If they can smell you and are at all worried by the smell you wont see them.
26 September 2016, 17:15
JiriEezox (in the past, still have some) and Hornady One Shot TAP-HD Extreme now. Hornady product is also better cleaner.
You will find the great info here:
http://www.dayattherange.com/?page_id=3667Jiri
26 September 2016, 19:47
customboltMore wise suggestions including the reminder about staying downwind if there is any wind. Thanks.
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06 October 2016, 06:15
Boxheadquote:
Originally posted by Duane Wiebe (CG&R):
quote:
Originally posted by Boxhead:
I went on a brown bear hunt in SE Alaska this past spring using my SS Win M70 375 H&H. I used Dyna Bore Coat in the barrel and coated the exterior with their Dyna Shield. The rifle spent many hours in the rain and two full dunks in the sea. I did nothing to the rifle during the 12 day hunt. Upon returning home I went in for a thorough cleaning. The trigger, the bottom side of the floorplate, the Weaver rings and bases had rust. All places I forgot to coat. The rest of the rifle was fine. With this, I am hooked on the stuck. Oh, and no smell and pretty permanent too.
I found this product under "dyna-tek"
Same, same. They have changed names...
06 October 2016, 15:12
p dog shooterI prefer stainless syt stock rifles for wet work.
09 February 2017, 17:02
SB McWilliamsI saw a pretty detailed test with multiple oils and surprisingly 3 in 1 oil was number 1 or 2 it was a saltwater test done over a fairly long time.
24 February 2017, 23:55
AtkinsonI use old world rust blue, I protect it in inclimate weather such as rain and snow with Johnsons wax (two or three coats) on metal and wood..Remove it when I get home and use whatever for storage in the gun cabinet...Never had any rust to deal with. Take a can with you. I really liked the old Johnsons wax, the new stuff not so much...but any solid wax works.
Ray Atkinson
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25 February 2017, 01:36
mdstewartI'm having almost almost of my custom rifles done in Durakote these days. It's a waterproof finish, and if I drop or scratch the finish, i can have it re-sprayed without seeing a difference in then finish.
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25 February 2017, 02:32
OTTOMATICquote:
Originally posted by dwheels:
Eezox I've been using it for years. Then I saw this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZf1ntC8r50
X2 . When I lived on the coast of NC 1 block from the beach it was the only stuff that worked. Before EEZOX not matter what I tried 2 weeks later there was always a light film of rust.
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25 February 2017, 19:00
nopride2Johnsons wax. I have a can that's about 40 years old.
Dave