Custom ZG47 by Dorleac & Dorleac 6.5-284

23 July 2011, 13:01

Trax

I quite like the fact they retain the orig. BH and safety. Removing machining marks from the shroud body,removing stepped ridges from cockpiece, together with checkered lever & subtle touches of colorcase, has brought it up nicely. The trigger guard could do with some tasteful narrowing.
regardless, a fine rifle...

Burgess rings/Leup. 2.5-8x36 would be my preference.

23 July 2011, 16:41

Peter

Well, that is a serious long distance caliber so probably demands a corresponding scope. That stock is very straight however. Wonder how it shoots, recoil wise?
Peter.

23 July 2011, 18:15

Dago Red

I love the lines, love the stock and the checkering, beautiful rifle, like the color cased touches. just gorgeous.

Red

My rule of life prescribed as an absolutely sacred rite smoking cigars and also the drinking of alcohol before, after and if need be during all meals and in the intervals between them.
-Winston Churchill

23 July 2011, 20:01

Dewey

Perfect, this rifle, chambered in 9,3x62 and a matching one in .7x64 on the later-issued Brno 21/22 snallring action, with the ZG bolt handle and safety would be a "dream come true".

This, is an example of the fact that NOT "all" fine custom rifles are built in the USA and this is on one of my two favourite actions.

Whoever owns that is one lucky s.o.b.!

25 July 2011, 02:44

SR4759

Funky fluted stock and a really UGLY scope...
I have no use for the case colors and I don't care for the feeding qualities of the short fat cases.
I like the safety though.

25 July 2011, 06:48

Tsquare2

A lovely, trim rifle. I believe that the big scope overpowers the slimness of the rifle, but that is just my opinion. A slim, trim rifle like that cries out for an equally slim, trim scope.

TT

25 July 2011, 07:17

Michael Robinson

The scope does seem oversized for the rifle, but what a rifle!

25 July 2011, 08:18

bwanamrm

Damn sexy if you ask me...

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Or walk with Kings - nor lose the common touch...
Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,
And - which is more - you'll be a Man, my son!
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26 July 2011, 05:48

StormsGSP

quote:
Originally posted by bwanamrm:
Damn sexy if you ask me...

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26 July 2011, 21:42

larrys

Very beautiful rifle! It is interesting to me that there are no sharp edges that were maintained, such as the top stock line where it meets the barrel. Everything is rounded. I think I like it a lot.

27 July 2011, 04:50

Duane Wiebe

That is pure class! understated elegance...Any thoughts about the safety...this style kinda "grinds my beans"

27 July 2011, 06:27

fla3006

For a scope that big, that sets up that high, I suppose a straight parallel comb is OK. But I prefer the way they came from the factory, about 1.5" drop at heel. I'd never replace the unique factory safety either, or much else for that matter:

27 July 2011, 06:52

D Humbarger

Forrest you can s3end number 9 to me in louisiana.

I promise to take really good care of it for you.

29 July 2011, 23:41

Dewey

Yup, he has more really nice ones than anyone I know and I agree with his comments. I only had mine changed to the Satterlee safety as it is a serious working-hunting rifle and since the original stock was hooped and yet the metal is 95% and it is a factory 9,3x62, I decided to put the Micky Edge, etc. on it and use it as all of my rifles have that type of safety.

I have a matched pair of .30-06s in original condition, no changes and am dealing on a fabulous little 7x57 and will not change any of these.o

These are the best hunting rifles any factory ever built, IMHO and I wish they still made them as they did back then.

31 July 2011, 05:53

SDH

New Dorleac&Dorleac photos.
.404 Jeffery on a special Mauser action.

http://www.finegunmaking.com/p...8/page50/page50.html

22 March 2012, 21:11

NitroX

quote:
Originally posted by Trax:

More familiar pics:

The Source:
http://forums.nitroexpress.com...3030&an=&page=0&vc=1

23 March 2012, 04:23

D Humbarger

I want to see some targets from that 6.5. The 6.5x284 is scarey accurate. I wonder how it performes in a Mauser.

23 March 2012, 09:25

Trax

Nitrox,
good bump for a really nice rifle.

however, where in my AR posts do I claim to personally own that rifle? [as you have falsely accused me of].

Reading the AR member comments, it appears they appreciate seeing the rifle images posted.

By all means go for your life in your trivial pursuit, your sure to find more AR posts by Trax that showcase a number of really fine rifles for AR members to appreciate.

24 March 2012, 18:26

Scrollcutter

Very nice rifle. I sorta prefer the second rifle though...looks familiar too!

Ottmar I'll wager.

24 March 2012, 22:45

FMC

Nice lines. Could be worse- 50mm objective. Nothing wrong with a 42 mm scope if you have the correct mounts. I prefer Conetrols with the scope about an RCH off the barrel myself (and similar bolt/eye piece clearance).

One thing I don't understand: the sights and barrel band on a cartridge designed for long range and with a reputation for accuracy. Prolly used some POS LW barrel anyway

25 March 2012, 00:52

montea6b

quote:
Originally posted by Trax:
Nitrox,
good bump for a really nice rifle.

however, where in my AR posts do I claim to personally own that rifle? [as you have falsely accused me of].

Where in the post by Nitrox does he falsely accuse you of personally owning that rifle? Just curious, cuz I sure don't see it... at least not in this thread.

25 March 2012, 00:59

xausa

quote:
Originally posted by SR4759:
I don't care for the feeding qualities of the short fat cases.
I like the safety though.

I definitely agree with the comment about the feeding characteristics of short, fat cases. In a single shot target rifle, the caliber is ideal. In a hunting rifle, much less so. I prefer the .256 Newton, with virtually the same case capacity (63.99 grains of water, vs. 66.54 in the 6.5-284) and no feeding problems.

If I'm not mistaken, the safety, like the one on my ZKK602, works the opposite of what one would intuitively expect. It appears to have been copied from the 1916 Newton. Like the Newton safety, it blocks the firing pin and it is pulled to the rear to release it. I much prefer the safety on the BRNO 21 and 22.

Beautiful stock.

25 March 2012, 04:30

J.D.Steele

quote:
Originally posted by xausa:
quote:
Originally posted by SR4759:
I don't care for the feeding qualities of the short fat cases.
I like the safety though.

I definitely agree with the comment about the feeding characteristics of short, fat cases. In a single shot target rifle, the caliber is ideal. In a hunting rifle, much less so. I prefer the .256 Newton, with virtually the same case capacity (63.99 grains of water, vs. 66.54 in the 6.5-284) and no feeding problems.

If I'm not mistaken, the safety, like the one on my ZKK602, works the opposite of what one would intuitively expect. It appears to have been copied from the 1916 Newton. Like the Newton safety, it blocks the firing pin and it is pulled to the rear to release it. I much prefer the safety on the BRNO 21 and 22.

Beautiful stock.

Me too, everything xausa said. I used to have a ZG-47 striker assembly but COULDN'T WAIT to trade it for something more user-friendly.
Regards, Joe

25 March 2012, 05:09

Grenadier

It looks very nice from where I am sitting but what's with that dooflachy on the side?

25 March 2012, 07:44

TC1

I love ZG-47 safety. It seemed pretty natural to me only after a few minutes use. The safety actually grabs the firing pin itself and not the cocking piece.

Terry

25 March 2012, 11:47

MOA TACTICAL

Beats the heck out of the backwards M70 safety.

Dorleac is a hell of a gunsmith.

I correspond with his son occsionally, he's a nice guy for being a Frog.

Hell of a gunsmith. His Heeren rifles are tops!

25 March 2012, 19:52

J.D.Steele

quote:
Originally posted by montea6b:
quote:
Originally posted by Trax:
Nitrox,
good bump for a really nice rifle.

however, where in my AR posts do I claim to personally own that rifle? [as you have falsely accused me of].

Where in the post by Nitrox does he falsely accuse you of personally owning that rifle? Just curious, cuz I sure don't see it... at least not in this thread.

"The guilty flee where no man pursueth....."
Regards, Joe

26 March 2012, 07:22

Trax

quote:
Originally posted by montea6b:

Where in the post by Nitrox does he falsely accuse you of personally owning that rifle? Just curious, cuz I sure don't see it... at least not in this thread.

Your correct, not in this thread,instead he unneccesarily disrupted an absolutely non related AR African hunting thread, to spin his delusional crap.
However, Id rather stay focused on using AR-CBR for discussing fine guns, rather than fools from another forum.

26 March 2012, 07:46

Trax

quote:
Originally posted by TC1:
I love ZG-47 safety. It seemed pretty natural to me only after a few minutes use. The safety actually grabs the firing pin itself and not the cocking piece.

Terry

In absence of an ergonomically friendly tang safety, the ZG47 safety and the "forward-rear rocking" Weatherby-MK-V safety, would be my favourite in regards to shroud mounted safeties.
Im certainly not one to get excited about the M70 3 pos. type.

regarding the chambering, if .264cal was the chosen bore size, , I would opt for 6.5x65RWS over the 6.5/284 Norma.

26 March 2012, 18:44

xausa

quote:
regarding the chambering, if .264cal was the chosen bore size, , I would opt for 6.5x65RWS over the 6.5/284 Norma.

For a discussion of the .256 Newton vis-a-vis other similar 6.5 cartridges, including the 6.5X65 RWS, see http://www.ballisticstudies.co...wton+and+6.5-06.html

26 March 2012, 20:26

J.D.Steele

quote:
Originally posted by xausa:
quote:
regarding the chambering, if .264cal was the chosen bore size, , I would opt for 6.5x65RWS over the 6.5/284 Norma.

For a discussion of the .256 Newton vis-a-vis other similar 6.5 cartridges, including the 6.5X65 RWS, see http://www.ballisticstudies.co...wton+and+6.5-06.html

Interesting article, but factually inaccurate in a few areas. The auther incorrectly states that the case length of the 256 Newton and 6.5-06 are identical and later he states that 270 WCF brass can be simply necked down with no other changes. Not true in either instance, all 3 cases are different lengths and the Newton has slightly less capacity than the other 2. Maybe petty but may also be pertinent (grin). I like the 6.5 bore, have several in 6.5-257, 6.5x55, 6.5x57 and 6.5-06.
Regards, Joe

28 March 2012, 16:33

disassembly

Wonderful rifle with not much that I would do differently except for the checkering on the grip that continues into the inletting for upper and lower tang--uugh!