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need a lightweight guide rifle built
04 August 2015, 11:00
Fourtyonesixneed a lightweight guide rifle built
I'm looking for a light weight 416, either rem or ruger to be built to my specs. would be willing to use it as a deposit on a hunt or work it into a hunt price as partial trade.
send me a pm if you might be able to do something of this nature.
looking for 7lbs with out scope
20" barrel
ruger action or other control round feed
stainless
short stock
iron sights/peep
in a nut shell
04 August 2015, 11:13
Austin HunterI'd start with a standard Ruger 416 guide gun. It's chambered in 416 Ruger which is optimal for it's 20" barrel. It has factory iron sights. I'd loose the muzzle brake. To get it lighter, I'd get a Manners or MPI light weight stock.
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04 August 2015, 23:20
Fourtyonesixi have the ruger guide gun, firing pin rusted up in one day and now it only shoots about one outa every three shots...rest are just hollow clicks..can't trust it now.
05 August 2015, 01:39
Austin Hunterquote:
Originally posted by Fourtyonesix:
i have the ruger guide gun, firing pin rusted up in one day and now it only shoots about one outa every three shots...rest are just hollow clicks..can't trust it now.
Maybe cerakote it?
What about 416 B&M? Built on M70 action, optimized for short barrels:
http://www.b-mriflesandcartridges.com/416-B-M.html
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"Ignorance of The People gives strength to totalitarians."
Want to make just about anything work better? Keep the government as far away from it as possible, then step back and behold the wonderment and goodness.
05 August 2015, 02:40
rnoviquote:
Originally posted by Fourtyonesix:
i have the ruger guide gun, firing pin rusted up in one day and now it only shoots about one outa every three shots...rest are just hollow clicks..can't trust it now.
Dang Jake. Guess I need to check which rifle you're carrying when I get to Anchorage next month?
My 1999 is in .375 H&H, 20" barrel with a B&C stock and it tips in at 7.5#. I'm at 8# 10oz with a a Leica 2.5-10x scope in Talley Lightweights.
I'd bet the larger .416 bore will shave a few ounces and a trimmer stock would get you right on 7#. You could probably get the barrel turned down on a lathe as well.
Actually:
http://montanarifleco.com/?page_id=182They advertise 7# 6oz for that exact rifle with a 24" barrel. Maybe give them a call and see if they will build that rifle with a 20" bbl?
Regards,
Robert
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05 August 2015, 03:06
FourtyonesixI'll probably have my 243 when you get here. Any gun that goes off is better than one that sometimes does. I'll check with Montana. Might try to buy back my old 416 NULA
05 August 2015, 03:26
rnoviquote:
Originally posted by Fourtyonesix:
I'll probably have my 243 when you get here. Any gun that goes off is better than one that sometimes does. I'll check with Montana. Might try to buy back my old 416 NULA
Brown Bear Hunting with a .243 back up.
This trip is so going to rock!
Seriously, that NULA you had was lovely. Featherweight it was!
Regards,
Robert
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Buy the 416 Taylor Will has for sale in Firearms Classifieds.
05 August 2015, 08:49
Fourtyonesixi saw that taylor from will, but would need new dies, a shortened stock, remove the barrel band and rear sight on the barrel, not sure what the weight is? and cut and crown the barrell down to 20" or so. and don't like the drop floorplate, prefer a flush fit. pretty gun though.
05 August 2015, 09:20
458WinI think I would give the Ruger another trial. I don't doubt your experience and understand how one bad experience can shape your opinion, but an overwhelming evidence from so many others should tell you something. And your experience will tell you what you need to watch for.
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www.grizzlyskinsofalaska.com 05 August 2015, 09:33
Idaho Sharpshooterhmmmmmmmmmmmm. I must be lucky, I have owned my FN 375 H&H for more than twenty years, and the firing pin is still at 100% reliability.
05 August 2015, 10:29
FourtyonesixGonna get it checked out and see if it's something simple. Have another ruger that I guided with for 12 years and never an issue. Love their action. But being on a grizz getting hammered last week and then the gun don't go off when I shot it later. Not good.
05 August 2015, 10:41
458Winquote:
Originally posted by Idaho Sharpshooter:
hmmmmmmmmmmmm. I must be lucky, I have owned my FN 375 H&H for more than twenty years, and the firing pin is still at 100% reliability.
Put a little Frogg lube on it and ignore it around salt water for awhile and let us know how well it works.
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www.grizzlyskinsofalaska.com 15 August 2015, 20:28
TomPI'm not a gunsmith, but wonder if a firing pin made from stainless steel solve the problem?
TomP
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16 August 2015, 09:26
lshopper"Hhhhhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmm"; So as not to come off sounding like a condescending dick, I'll offer some actual helpful advice of contacting the Ruger Customer Service Department. They have one of, if not the best, customer service departments in the industry. I feel sure they will be interested in your experience and will want to help you however they can. If you take this tack, please let us know what your experience is please. That kind of information from industry professionals such as yourself is always helpful.
Thanks,
Lance
16 August 2015, 09:52
lshopperquote:
Originally posted by lshopper:
"Hhhhhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmm"; So as not to come off sounding like a condescending dick, I'll offer some actual helpful advice of contacting the Ruger Customer Service Department. They have one of, if not the best, customer service departments in the industry. I feel sure they will be interested in your experience and will want to help you however they can. If you take this tack, let us know what your experience is please. That kind of information from industry professionals such as yourself is always helpful.
Thanks,
Lance
17 August 2015, 18:07
Big Wonderful Wyomingquote:
Originally posted by lshopper:
"Hhhhhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmm"; So as not to come off sounding like a condescending dick, I'll offer some actual helpful advice of contacting the Ruger Customer Service Department. They have one of, if not the best, customer service departments in the industry. I feel sure they will be interested in your experience and will want to help you however they can. If you take this tack, please let us know what your experience is please. That kind of information from industry professionals such as yourself is always helpful.
Thanks,
Lance
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19 August 2015, 13:14
458WinJake, after reading your experience I thought I would get my rifles ready for another season so took all my camp Rugers apart for a good cleaning and lube and they all seem to be in top shape. which is typical for Rugers, as you know. I wonder what caused your rifle to rust so bad?
I think I would pull it apart to take a look and if you don't find anything take Lance's advice and ship it to Ruger.
And then keep things lubricated well with Corrosion X.
Anyone who claims the 30-06 is ineffective has either not tried one, or is unwittingly commenting on their own marksmanship
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FAA Master pilot
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