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Anyone have Rifle with a Swift/Blackburn small Oberndorf guard bow?
22 August 2017, 05:11
ColoradoMattAnyone have Rifle with a Swift/Blackburn small Oberndorf guard bow?
Does anyone have a pic of a custom rifle that utilizes a Swift/Blackburn small Oberndorf guard bow bottom metal? I'd really like to see how they look. Thanks
Matt
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22 August 2017, 09:39
ColoradoMattThanks lindy. Based on that pic, it seems like the size of the bow is similar to an
'09, rather than the larger bow you see in the 20's and 30's. I had a square bridge action from 1912 that had a small inside release bow. It was basically just a 1909 bottom metal.
Matt
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22 August 2017, 20:09
Duane Wiebe (CG&R)I superimposed a 1909 over Blackburn's illustration and if there's a difference, I can't tell it. If there was enough interest in the 1909 profile to pay the light bill, they would be offered.
We did a small run some years ago, no money in it.
22 August 2017, 22:07
DavidReedI didn't know David Miller made his own bottom metal?
23 August 2017, 07:05
ColoradoMattWell, I was looking at the Oberndorf bow Blackburn metals because I thought I might trade one to a fellow for an original Oberndorf 10.75x68 bottom metal. I was just told that he's not fond of the Blackburn, and is fairly set on an original commercial oberndorf 57mm unit, so I'm on the hunt for one of those. Thanks to all for your comments.
Matt
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25 August 2017, 00:34
lindy2Here is another paper I got from Ted. From this it appears that the large Oberndorf guard and the small Oberndorf guard are not the same. It appears that in addition to it's size, the large Oberndorf guard is somewhat of a hybrid of both the small Oberndorf Guard and the Blackburn guard.
25 August 2017, 03:48
richj30-06, Beitzinger rifle, Fugger if not Cargnil engraving.
27 August 2017, 07:51
ColoradoMattThanks rich and Lindy. The Stutzen rifle uses the Blackburn style bow, rather than the Oberndorf, but thanks for posting. Gorgeous rifle!
Matt
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27 August 2017, 20:10
Redoak8The paper that lindy2 posted from Blackburn's that shows a sketch of their Large Oberndorf guard bow seems similar to me in size to the guard bow on the Brno ZG-47.
27 August 2017, 22:52
Gundog 64Matt,
I have a rifle being built now using that exact bottom metal, but do not have any pictures as my smith just got started on it. Maybe in a few weeks I can help you a bit more.
29 August 2017, 04:38
ColoradoMattquote:
Originally posted by Gundog 64:
Matt,
I have a rifle being built now using that exact bottom metal, but do not have any pictures as my smith just got started on it. Maybe in a few weeks I can help you a bit more.
Thanks, Gundog!
Matt
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"Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right."
30 August 2017, 19:21
customboltSorry about the extremely poor pictures. I was in a hurry.
Hope these help Matt.
TOP Duane Wiebe 1936 Mexican bottom metal.
MIDDLE Blackburn standard length.
BOTTOM 1909 Argentine body with aftermarket straddle plate.
Just in case the pictures don't show properly, here are 2 direct links.
http://imgbox.com/3smtQc23http://imgbox.com/gF8rN3yG
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12 September 2017, 23:44
AtkinsonI like the large bows as Idhao is cold country and gloves are a must most of the time..My favorite guard bow is the very large Brno mod. 21 an 22, but they are hard as hell to find..The last one I had I traded for a Blackburn, so if you can find one, it will be expensive..Im always on the lookout for them. I have them on a couple of rifles I built.
Ray Atkinson
Atkinson Hunting Adventures
10 Ward Lane,
Filer, Idaho, 83328
208-731-4120
rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com
13 September 2017, 03:53
Duane Wiebe (CG&R)I have one I might sell
14 September 2017, 21:01
lindy2what do they look like.
14 September 2017, 22:30
AtkinsonDuane,
A brno 21? PM me a price?
Ray Atkinson
Atkinson Hunting Adventures
10 Ward Lane,
Filer, Idaho, 83328
208-731-4120
rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com
14 September 2017, 23:36
butchlambertRay, I wouldn't think price would cause you pause.
15 September 2017, 03:44
AtkinsonButch,
You need to quit thinking!
Ray Atkinson
Atkinson Hunting Adventures
10 Ward Lane,
Filer, Idaho, 83328
208-731-4120
rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com