Opinions on this checkering..Points for who did it.

19 June 2010, 16:57

airgun1

I am not qualified to comment as to any standard on checkering, but that is pretty nice work. It looks like 18 LPI and for that reason I am going to take a stab that you did it yourself? The high dollar guys mostly go with finer is my reasoning.

19 June 2010, 17:57

J.D.Steele

That is EXCELLENT checkering regardless of who did it! I especially like the stylized shape of the fleurs with their flared points, and the veiner work on them is outstanding. Congratulations!
Regards, Joe

19 June 2010, 19:21

elliesbear

Excellent work, good stright lines, nicely pointed diamonds and really good viener work...

19 June 2010, 20:20

ColoradoMatt

Al or Roger Biesen?

Matt
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19 June 2010, 20:20

stocker

Has Dale Goens look to it.

19 June 2010, 22:14

DArcy_Echols_Co

Curt Crum

19 June 2010, 22:29

LeeC

quote:
Originally posted by DArcy_Echols_Co:
Curt Crum

I have a hard time playing checkers, much less actually checkering a stock.
Darcy nailed it of course. What gave it away, the floorplate? Or triggerguard? Or do you know Curt's work that well?
Actually the name is on the barrel in the first pic.
Curt is one of the best for sure.
A few more

19 June 2010, 22:35

DArcy_Echols_Co

The shape and style of the Fleur is pretty distinct

20 June 2010, 01:55

vapodog

quote:
Just wondered if this checkering was up to this forums standards

If I could do checkering that good, I'd go into the business and I wouldn't be cheap!

IMO it's superb.

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20 June 2010, 02:59

LeeC

quote:
Originally posted by vapodog:
quote:
Just wondered if this checkering was up to this forums standards

If I could do checkering that good, I'd go into the business and I wouldn't be cheap!

IMO it's superb.

I was asking tongue in cheek actually, as I know it is good enough.. Curt is one of the best in the world at what he does.
They do charge accordingly for this kind of checkering

20 June 2010, 03:00

LeeC

I think classic's are 48-50,000
Marksmans 28-30,000

20 June 2010, 07:29

ted thorn

20 June 2010, 08:52

dwheels

I am amazed at how anybody can checker like that. Beartiful. On a side note, what kind of wood is the stock just above? Wonderful figure. DW

20 June 2010, 09:50

LeeC

Turkish Walnut

20 June 2010, 17:00

EDMHUNTER

If you had done that work I was going to tell you to quit your day job! That is very nice work! Nice rifle!

20 June 2010, 17:29

J.D.Steele

And yet some folks on this forum have referred to checkering with fleurs as being 'tacky'....

Wonder why?
Regards, Joe

21 June 2010, 00:23

SingleShotGuy

On a rifle that spectacular, the "knurled" bolt handle has got to go! Just my opinion, but 2-panel checkering is so classic.

21 June 2010, 02:42

LeeC

Since this is a custom, I could have the bolt handle any way I preferred. I prefer the handle that is on it..
When you order yours you can ask for a 2 panel.

21 June 2010, 10:19

Howard

quote:
Originally posted by LeeC:
I prefer the handle that is on it..
When you order yours you can ask for a 2 panel.

Lee, that makes it perfect. That is a simply stunning rifle. Caliber?

21 June 2010, 11:01

LeeC

300wby of course.
It is actually not a classic. I had David Make me a marksman with a wood stock.A lot of people think what I have is a classic.

Here are a few pics of a classic.I had it a couple of years. It is a 338winchester, but someone offered me twice what I paid, so I let it go..One of the nicest rifles I ever held.

21 June 2010, 12:04

Dago Red

beautiful, definitely some of the nicest fluers I've seen, I don't even normally like them and would take those on one of my rifles.

Amazing how the other guys out there like D'arcy can recognize each others work so well.

Beautiful.

Red

21 June 2010, 17:46

vapodog

quote:
Amazing how the other guys out there like D'arcy can recognize each others work so well.

When one aspires to be the best (or at least among the best) he makes it his business to set standards by the very best around him.

One only becomes the best by emulating the best and then trying to "one up" them.

We are very fortunate to have several of the "best" gunmakers in the world posting here and showing their work....it sets a new standard for all of us.

I'm not at all surprised that D'arcy would know someone that was "the best" and recognize his work. It's one of the ways he became what he is.

21 June 2010, 18:56

22WRF

I have a feeling that D'arcy Echols and David Miller and Curt Crum know each other quite well and are very familiar with each others work, and have been for quite some time.

At least, that was implied in an article written by David Miller in the January 1994 issue of Rifle Magazine entitled "Functional Art by Hunters".

The major premise of the article was (is) that in order to make best quality guns the maker himself (herself) must be a serious and frequent hunter.

Miller speaks at length about the hunting tradition within the David Miller Company, and then goes on to write considerably about "young gun maker" D'Arcy Echols who began as a very young hunter enamored with custom/high quality firearms, of which two were guns his uncle owned that were made by Griffin and Howe; and then D'Arcy's evolution as a best quality gunmaker, as well as why D"Arcy's guns are "best quality".

There is no doubt that to write that article the writer and the subject had to be well acquainted with each other.

21 June 2010, 19:50

LeeC

I already Knew that DArcy, and David were well acquainted, I just forgot that he was on the board. When people run in the same circles, they are bound to know each others work. I also know that David has a lot of respect for DArcy. I just happened to find David before I knew of DArcy. I would not have a problem owning an Echols rifle.

21 June 2010, 22:11

vapodog

quote:
Originally posted by 22WRF:
quote:
I would not have a problem owning an Echols rifle.

Neither would I.

anyone want to loan me the cash.....

21 June 2010, 22:32

SingleShotGuy

I HAVE placed a few orders over the years, and my opinion was not to "ruffle your feathers". Please accept my apology if it came across as being too critical. These were built for me by Dale Goens, Dean Zollinger and Bob Gipson and just shows my preference in bolt knobs. Regards, ED

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21 June 2010, 22:35

SingleShotGuy

Guess my first attempt at Photobucket didn't turn out so well............

21 June 2010, 22:48

LeeC

I don't know you well enough for you to ruffle my feathers..Not even close.
I do what I like, you do what you like..All is well with the world..Pretty simple actually.

21 June 2010, 23:49

vapodog

quote:
Originally posted by SingleShotGuy:
I HAVE placed a few orders over the years, and my opinion was not to "ruffle your feathers". Please accept my apology if it came across as being too critical. These were built for me by Dale Goens, Dean Zollinger and Bob Gipson and just shows my preference in bolt knobs. Regards, ED

22 June 2010, 06:11

Peter

I am posting these for singleshotguy:

Peter

22 June 2010, 21:42

dempsey

What are the differences between the Marksman and Classic? Based on the photo's I much prefer the cosmetics of the Marksman.

23 June 2010, 23:06

LeeC

quote:
Originally posted by dempsey:
What are the differences between the Marksman and Classic? Based on the photo's I much prefer the cosmetics of the Marksman.

Functionally nothing. I would say it is mostly in the wood, bluing, gold inlay, barrel contour etc. A true marksman has a laminated stock. I opted for a wood stock.
Here is an article that is from Tom Turpin's book. You can click on the pictures to get a bigger picture..The rifle on the top left is a marksman, and the rifle on the bookcover, and bottom, are classics.
If you interested enough, the book is very in depth, and a good read, and it pretty much explains the work that goes into one of their rifles.