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07 May 2023, 01:42
FAST996
Need a recommendation for a Riflemaker M98
I have a pair of Satterlee M98 actions and turkish blanks that I have had since 2010 and 2013 that I would like to find good tradesman to complete.
Sometimes life get's in the way of getting things done. Most of the connections I use to have,have either retired or passed. Thanks


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07 May 2023, 02:45
mlfguns
We are blessed in the US with very talented gunsmiths who can do the commission and do it well. Some will take 3-5 years to complete. Iron out the details in advance.
Don’t waste pretty walnut on a rifle that looks good but doesn’t fit.
If it was me. I’d get hold of James Tucker near Medford Oregon 1 541 601 4960 jctstocker@charter.net. Get fitted by him or a highly reputable stock fitter, usually at high end shotgun stores or net search. Send the measurement to James and have him do his magic. You will get a tux that fits you.
Look into the American Custom Gunmaker’s Guild and browse their directory. Here’a a few names off memory at the moment.
Goseph Smithson, Darcy Echols, Stuart Satterlee, Al Lind, mark Penrod, Lone Paul, Reto Buehler, Gene Simillion. We have a few acomplished smiths on this forum also. Steven Todd Hughes, Jim Kobe and more. I hope I didn’t screw up their name spelling.
Attend the annual ACGG show and feast your eyes. You will find someone. Enjoy the journey, congratulations.
07 May 2023, 02:51
mlfguns
I cannot remember the name but his handle on this forum is Gunmaker in S Dakota. His rifles are exquisite.
07 May 2023, 02:52
mlfguns
Cannot forget Duane Wiebe.
07 May 2023, 06:15
FAST996
Well,I was hoping that the backlogs weren't running that long.If anybody is less than 2 years please drop me a PM.


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07 May 2023, 09:17
Kolo-Pan
Why not go back to the Maker who made the actions - in this case MR. Satterlee himself.


KJK
07 May 2023, 17:02
bwanamrm
James Anderson is the man behind the Gunmaker alias and he builds a fine rifle, as do the other gentlemen mentioned. Also, Ralf Martini is very talented. But I agree with the consensus that it will take 2 to three years for the finished rifle...


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07 May 2023, 17:52
dogcat
If you have all of this - CALL STUART! He is very good at his craft.

If you are bargain hunting, don't. These are superb actions and deserve a pro who will do it right.

If you are hesitant, contact me and we can discuss a deal on those actions and blanks....

I am not a gunmaker but know good when I see it. His actions are good.
07 May 2023, 19:55
Gundog 64
Have to agree with Kolo Pan & Dogcat, call Stuart he's working on one for me right now and his completion estimate was not 2 years and I felt his estimate was quite reasonable.
09 May 2023, 03:44
FAST996
quote:
Originally posted by Gundog 64:
Have to agree with Kolo Pan & Dogcat, call Stuart he's working on one for me right now and his completion estimate was not 2 years and I felt his estimate was quite reasonable.


I took your advice and contacted Stu....we shall see what happens.


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10 May 2023, 02:01
FAST996
Ok talked to Stuart and he is going to build me a 505 Gibbs which he can start after Gundog. Me and Stu have had the Gibbs project on ice for many moons...so it's a win win for both of us.
As far as my Rigby's I'm talking to three guild members currently. Time to me is important and one gentleman can start the projects beginning the first of the year. I'll post when things get cemented. Thanks


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10 May 2023, 03:44
Kolo-Pan
FAST996

In addition to the calibers, it would be fun to hear what your plans are for the two rifles that you will have done up for you. You know, barrels and wood and style and all of that good stuff.


KJK
10 May 2023, 06:25
Michael Robinson
quote:
Originally posted by FAST996:
Most of the connections I use to have, have either retired or passed.


Too true.

A .505 by the original maker is a fine solution.


Mike

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10 May 2023, 23:56
FAST996
quote:
Originally posted by Kolo-Pan:
FAST996

In addition to the calibers, it would be fun to hear what your plans are for the two rifles that you will have done up for you. You know, barrels and wood and style and all of that good stuff.

I found a blank for the 505 Gibbs to send to Stuart. I think it rings all the bells.



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11 May 2023, 01:15
gunmaker
Ooooooooooo WWWOOOWWW!
Call me. call me!

I am backed up though and Stu builds a pretty nice rifle.


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12 May 2023, 17:38
Timan
quote:
Originally posted by gunmaker:
Ooooooooooo WWWOOOWWW!
Call me. call me!

I am backed up though and Stu builds a pretty nice rifle.


Backed up sucks! I'm really curious these days about far far newer tech. than manual and hand tools.

With virtually every barrel contour being different, barreled action differences in general. Figure out how to scan barreled actions and stocks then combine the two for inlet and shape. Hand finishing and checkering is where the human takes over.
Plus, who knows what else a guy could do with this.

Hit this link.

any thoughts?

ttps://oqton.com/geomagic-designx/?utm_source=bing&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=H%20-%20Geomagic%20Design%20X%20-%20US&utm_adgroup=Design_X&utm_content=&utm_term=&msclkid=b1f01dc5dd5a10dc3687799bf845dea4



12 May 2023, 23:12
gunmaker
Stu
I'd love to have the latest & greatest in software. But...

My Milltronics can digitize the profile along the side of a barrel held between centers. Then export a dxf from the DOS software for the Renishaw. Import it into Vellum and offset the radius of the probe. Import the offset dxf into the Milltronics as a path for a 3d-sweep cycle to follow and program the barrel channel in 2 pages of conversational.

This will run a Y-Z arc just like the bullet boards we used to run at Dakota. I've only used it for pattern work as I glass all my custom work for a perfect inletting and run it on my manual duplicator.


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13 May 2023, 01:04
Duane Wiebe (CG&R)
I guess the time will come when the whiz guys just fill in numbers and throw a block of wood into a machine and out will pop ( or poop ) a CUSTOM stock!

No chisles, rasps,files sandpaper...Gunsmiths will wear a three piece siut with shiny shoes ...and a fresh manicure.
13 May 2023, 01:29
gunmaker
quote:
Originally posted by Duane Wiebe (CG&R):
I guess the time will come when the whiz guys just fill in numbers and throw a block of wood into a machine and out will pop ( or poop ) a CUSTOM stock!

No chisles, rasps,files sandpaper...Gunsmiths will wear a three piece siut with shiny shoes ...and a fresh manicure.

Not likely to happen in the custom world unless AI can map the grain structure, layout and any residual stress in a block of walnut first. animal

They will probably outlaw sandpaper first.


gunmaker
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14 May 2023, 07:11
Austin Hunter
There are folks that still want the finest and that means custom or a better word- bespoke!

My wife and watched the series below last year. You make think the opening is a little pretentious and a bit over the top, but it was a great series - bespoke British shooting suits, traditional fabric mills, Purdey shotguns, and traditional British hunting. While not British, I think there is something in all of us that yearns for the days when the sun never sat on the British Empire and officers and gentlemen were afoot in the field in the day hunting.

https://youtu.be/8dIDV_HJ01E


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14 May 2023, 20:42
307RIFLE
Fast996, Did you buy that stick of Turkish Walnut? I have been looking at that web-site and wondering how they are to deal with. All of the wood venders that I have used in the past have either passed on or retired. I haven't had a chance to work with Turkish Walnut yet (just English, Claro, and Black) and want to try using just to see what differance there is.
14 May 2023, 22:59
FAST996
quote:
Originally posted by 307RIFLE:
Fast996, Did you buy that stick of Turkish Walnut? I have been looking at that web-site and wondering how they are to deal with. All of the wood venders that I have used in the past have either passed on or retired. I haven't had a chance to work with Turkish Walnut yet (just English, Claro, and Black) and want to try using just to see what differance there is.

I will send you a PM


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21 May 2023, 10:20
Michael Robinson
That's a truly beautiful and well laid out stock blank.

This should turn out to be a great rifle.


Mike

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