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13 December 2013, 08:45
458Win
mystery 22 Hornet
A local dealer has this rifle for sale and I have no idea of who built it. it is a well built 22 Hornet and the bolt handle appears to be the only locking lug.
The stock is well done but has a long crack midway down the forend that appears as a dark like and a few repairs behing the bolt handle as well.

Any ideas ?










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13 December 2013, 09:38
maxbear
Ziegenhahn made in Germany.
13 December 2013, 09:40
maxbear
I could be wrong though.
13 December 2013, 10:07
Gerry
The Claw Mounts of course, speak volumes of it's Tuetonic heritage.

Appears to me in the photo that the bolt cut isn't correct or is it the light in photo with the rear crossbolt? Can't tell, but if so, may indicate the bolt isn't closing 100%. This could perhaps be the issue with the repairs behind it that you describe.

Had the same issue with a Weihrauch 22 Hornet. Filed the bolt handle cut down for some additional clearance and the accuracy improved significantly.

Is that a 1/2 lug on the front of the bolt?

Shame concerning the stock cracks, IMO, a very nice looking rifle made in an era when steel & walnut was used in making firearms.

If you'd care to send the photos to ghclay@googlemail.com, I'll blast them across to my Gunsmith who may be able to confirm it's true identity?


Cheers,

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13 December 2013, 10:45
458Win
I received a PM from a man in S Africa who knew what it was and then I found one on GunAuction.com ( # 7000714 Ziegenhahn 5.6x32 )

It was most likely made in the 1930's but Ziegenhahn is still making high end double rifle for Kreighoff.
Thanks for all the help.


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13 December 2013, 18:24
butchloc
looks like something you need phil Big Grin
13 December 2013, 21:35
Biebs
quote:
looks like something you need phil Big Grin

Yes, Phil...a gun wearing duct tape, and perhaps a shot or 2 of Rustoleum, wouldn't exactly look out of place in your gunrack :-)
13 December 2013, 22:18
458Win
Biebs, If I only had to buy 22 Hornet ammo for my backup rifle I could offer to take you on a discounted hunt jumping


Anyone who claims the 30-06 is ineffective has either not tried one, or is unwittingly commenting on their own marksmanship
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13 December 2013, 22:51
Biebs
Phil, you do have quite an eclectic collection, from spray-painted old Mossburg pump beaters to a Westley droplock and some of Lon Paul's finest guns. You're a STRANGE man :-)
13 December 2013, 23:44
Idaho Sharpshooter
What's he asking for that gem...?
14 December 2013, 00:47
custombolt
Another one.
http://www.gunbroker.com/Aucti....aspx?Item=371356283


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14 December 2013, 02:51
igorrock
This rifle is so old that IMO the caliber isn´t 5,6x36 (.22 Hornet) but .22 Vierling. Very near same but not exactly. Actually, it´s .22 WCF with smokeless powder.


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14 December 2013, 03:22
458Win
quote:
Originally posted by Biebs:
Phil, you do have quite an eclectic collection, from spray-painted old Mossburg pump beaters to a Westley droplock and some of Lon Paul's finest guns. You're a STRANGE man :-)



Thanks, and it took you how long to realize that ?

The owner is asking $1100 here in Alaska - in fact his name is Allen Nichols and his phone number is 907-357-2414 and e-mail is allen@matonline.net in case someone wants to get a jump on it.

As I said, it is a high quality rifle with a nicely done custom stock but the stock has been broken and repaired. It appears solid.
The other issue is the only sights are the bases for claw mounts so the owner will have to deal with that as well.


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14 December 2013, 22:40
Biebs
quote:
Thanks, and it took you how long to realize that ?

I guess I'm just not the quickest pony in the stable :-)
15 December 2013, 05:02
twoseventy
Biebs, you may plod along a little slower than some, but you came to the right conclusion.


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15 December 2013, 05:10
Biebs
quote:
Biebs, you may plod along a little slower than some, but you came to the right conclusion.

270, thanks....I think? :-)