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Originally posted by Chuck Nelson:

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Originally posted by shootaway:

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Originally posted by TC1:
Some things the client should choose, some things are best left to the builder himself. I would ask Ralph for his advice and follow it. Probably as many fine rifles are ruined by bad choices as by bad workmanship.

Terry

Do you think using rust blue will ruin a rifle? I feel sorry for those who ruined there rifles.

Do you think Ralphs hot caustic blue will?

You have already stated that a rust blue may indeed ruin your floorplate.

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Originally posted by Yale:

...Depends on what you like. I like the satin dark grey/black of a rust blued finish.

I myself appreciate a high quality deep rust blue and also the high quality-highly durable hot blue process as used by Echols&Co..[some of which are high gloss, other examples being lightly dulled/satin in appearance.]

In both cases there only a select few that can deliver such results.

orig. Rigby:

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Originally posted by shootaway:
That is the kind of bluing I want.No future-like crap.

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Originally posted by shootaway:
That is the kind of bluing I want.No future-like crap.

If you want your engraving blued/blacked in appearance, with the best chance of retaining its orig. detail, then some of todays altered/modern/fururistic processes may be the smart way to go.

You think Ralf Martini gets some old-world traditional skilled person to do the NITRIDING process on his Hagn actions, or more likely someone knowledgeable and up to date with todays modern-futuristic computer controlled nitriding methods?

Nitriding goes back to the 1920's, and through advances, we have developed plasma[ion]nitriding.

Plasma nitriding is often coupled with physical vapor deposition (PVD) process and labeled Duplex Treatment, with enhanced benefits. Many users prefer to have a plasma oxidation step combined at the last phase of processing to produce a smooth jetblack layer of oxides which is resistant to wear and corrosion.

Rust blue is also a blackening-oxidation process that offers corrosion resistance.

So, surface treatment processes you refer to as "future-like crap" can infact be quite similar in nature to older more traditional ways of oxidizing[rust bluing] steel for appearance and protection.

The more course forms of engraving can tolerate rust blue to some degree.
Pre-war Rigby magnum mauser:

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Originally posted by Chuck Nelson:

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Originally posted by shootaway:

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Originally posted by TC1:
Some things the client should choose, some things are best left to the builder himself. I would ask Ralph for his advice and follow it. Probably as many fine rifles are ruined by bad choices as by bad workmanship.

Terry
Do you think using rust blue will ruin a rifle? I feel sorry for those who ruined there rifles.


Do you think Ralphs hot caustic blue will?

You have already stated that a rust blue may indeed ruin your floorplate.
No,I don`t think that Ralf`s hot blue or whatever other process he uses will ruin my project.I just might prefer something else.I was told that the rusting process may make the lion disappear.There will be no rust bluing on the floorplate that`s for sure.When I filled out the work order sheet for my project I remember being asked what type of bluing I wanted and I replied rust bluing.I don`t think I did anything wrong.