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NEW DSB M70
11 January 2014, 12:49
KimRNEW DSB M70
At DSC-new manufacture M70,cloverleaf tang,checkered bolt stop,Oberndorf style straddle FP+triggerguard FP release.5!!sizes.magnum sizes have 0.800 bolt dia.$2k for mini&K to$2300 for magnums.www.richardsonand roberts.comAnyone else seen them?what do you think?Had AL Lind takea look-he liked them.
11 January 2014, 15:09
RyanBI really like the look of these.
Do they hold four and five down like a Pre-64 or three and four like a classic?
11 January 2014, 17:36
KimRnot sure.want to have Al Lind do a little 243 to be as small as mt Fred Adolph K so 3 is fine for me.
11 January 2014, 17:49
KimROOPS!cant read 6 different sizes!!!
11 January 2014, 19:03
LJSI would really like to see them but I get nothing with that web address.
11 January 2014, 19:20
Dall85Website came up for me. Does show pricing and features.
Jim
11 January 2014, 19:41
LJSI'm trying but not finding them. Triple checked spelling. Nutz!!!
11 January 2014, 19:50
ab_bentley http://richardsonandroberts.com/ADam
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11 January 2014, 20:31
LJSThanks AB got it now. Crazy computer!
12 January 2014, 04:06
butchlambertSaw them today at DSC. Nice looking receiver!
12 January 2014, 06:43
RyanBDoes anyone know how many they hold down in the magazine, if they handle gas like a P64 or a Classic, and if they are shipping now?
12 January 2014, 07:19
KimRThink these were prototypes they had there.i really liked them&dragged Al Lind overthere to save me from myself but he liked them.No help.So here i am 50 yrs later starting all over ordering custom rifles again.They have contact info on their web site.
12 January 2014, 12:21
sorokaDo you know if they are all machined from billet or investment cast?
Thanks
12 January 2014, 17:30
RyanBThe first page said billet. 8620 specifically.
12 January 2014, 21:25
butchlambertThey are 8620 and will be shipped case hardened or will let the smith have it done if they want to whittle on the metal. About .020" case is what they told me.
13 January 2014, 17:44
clowdisQuestion is, are they showing or really delivering? I've seen a couple of companies that had actions to show but when you went to order nothing happened. Their website shows computer models but no photographs of actual actions.
"Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading".
13 January 2014, 18:52
butchlambertWell, they had 2 real ones at the DSC and somebody had another that was similar in the ACGG area.
13 January 2014, 19:14
winchester poorWOW, nice, I would love to do a Bartlien barrel and legend stock gun! very best
13 January 2014, 20:26
SR4759Summary as I understand lean manufacturing.
They will not build any inventory without a solid market forecast or firm orders.
I would suggest phone calls and a visit to the place to see what capabilities they have.
Quoting the site
As a result of our lean manufacturing techniques we are able to offer a variety of custom features to our customers.
Most of our actions are made to order, so when you place your order please specify what options are desired. Bolt handles are offered in both a swept back (like the original model 70) and a straight down configuration. For an additional fee a checkered bolt handle is also offered.
Actions may be ordered with or without square bridges.
The rear tang can come in either a “clover leaf” shape or left in a modern Model 70 style.
Triggers come standard in a Pre-64 style, but for an additional fee a Jewel trigger is offered.
“Custom” is the key word describing our actions, so if there are any other features you desire please let us know and we’ll try to accommodate your request.
13 January 2014, 23:05
clowdisquote:
Originally posted by butchlambert:
Well, they had 2 real ones at the DSC and somebody had another that was similar in the ACGG area.
Reason I asked was because there was a company called CST at Camp Perry a couple of years ago touting a really great looking and working action, but when you went to get one there was nothing available. I was supposed to get an e-mail when the actions became available but I haven't heard anything from them or seen one of their actions since.
"Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading".
13 January 2014, 23:37
Nick HughesGuys, I may be wrong but I would bet a soda pop these are being made by GMA and in that case with their reputation I'm sure delivery will be prompt. My guess would also be that more work detailing the actions to specific cartridges scope mounts etc. will be needed, expect to pay at least another 1,000 getting it fine tuned.
14 January 2014, 03:30
RyanBAn M70 doesn't feed off the rails so you wouldn't be spending a bunch to have the rails worked on.
Also I doubt GMA makes them because a partner in the project is a machinist. The other partner is a gunmaker who uses GMA actions.
14 January 2014, 03:50
butchlambertRyanB,
I think that Nick is right. I am a somewhat machinest, gunsmith and my partner is an engineer. He designs, I do the prototype work. We then let a good CNC shop produce our product.
14 January 2014, 05:27
RyanBI guess that makes sense and would explain some of the styling of the rifle. Surprised at the price if that is the case. It would mean a high likelihood of actions actually shipping, as compared to some other companies what fold at this point in the venture.
I emailed for some information, haven't heard back yet.
14 January 2014, 05:51
RyanBGot an answer from Mr. Roberts. Five rounds in standard and four in magnum.
What other questions do we have? I can compile them into an email tomorrow and post the answers here.
14 January 2014, 06:13
butchlambertI image it will be later this week before they get back to Vermont. I hope that it is the real deal.
14 January 2014, 06:51
ab_bentleyI just got an email back from him, 90 days per order. Adam
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14 January 2014, 07:38
RyanBWhat are the terms?
14 January 2014, 19:04
butchlambertAfter some of our AR members and other people having bad dealings with receiver makers, I would be hesitant to just jump in for one.
14 January 2014, 19:24
RyanBOf course. No one wants to buy something from the next Waffenfabrik Hein. That's why I ask what the terms are. If you don't have to pay up front it's a lot more tempting.
14 January 2014, 20:51
Aaron LittleDid anyone get pictures of the real thing?
15 January 2014, 03:21
ab_bentleyAdam,
We require a $500 deposit to get started on your action and then the remainder will be due on delivery. When you are ready to order you can mail a check to me with a list of your actions specifications. Please indicate what action model, whether left or right hand and specify any custom features you would like. These can be found on our website on the Action Styles page.
Thank you for your interest,
Matthew Roberts
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28 January 2014, 05:26
Duckear2K and that doesn't get your knob checkered?!?!?!?
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28 January 2014, 07:05
RyanBIt's in line with the pricing on Dakota actions and much cheaper than GMA or Satterlee Mausers, which don't come with checkered knobs either.