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John Speed/Mauser Guru and help identifying.

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24 February 2015, 10:37
Stokes
John Speed/Mauser Guru and help identifying.
Hey Guys,
This is a really weird deal, and I bet dollars to donuts someone here knows something about what I've got going on.

About 16 years ago, this rifle quickly passed through my hands. At the time, John Speed was familiar with it, and was hoping to get some photos, maybe even include it in one of his publications.

Well, it went through my hands quicker than I could have that done. But, when I had it originally, I had a magazine article with some information with it. It's only had one owner since it left my hands and then returned, but the article is gone. So, can someone remind me what this makers logo is, and maybe point me in the direction of better research materials?


Is John still around? I want to think he used to be down in Arizona.




24 February 2015, 21:05
ColoradoMatt
John Speed's contact info can be found in one or more of his books. Don't know if it is current. I am out of town right now. If someone doesn't beat me to it, I will get the info to you via P.M. in a couple of days.
Matt


Matt
FISH!!

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24 February 2015, 22:11
Huvius
Don't know who made that one but Christof Funk made some Mausers with a little .22 rifle mounted under the main barrel contained in the stockwork. Rock Island auctioned one of those not long ago.
Is that a loading port on the side there? Maybe an auto loader hiden in there.
24 February 2015, 22:43
heavenknows
Gustav Genschow Karlsruhe could be the Maker(retailer?) of that item.
25 February 2015, 01:36
zimbabwe
I don't think Jon Speed spends his winters in Tucson anymore. I bought his 375H&H ZKK 602 he used as his last rifle as a professional in Africa. This was what he told me when he saw me with it once in Tucson. Is there anything like it in any of his books? I thought I had read them pretty closely but they are Biiiig books.


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26 February 2015, 04:04
m4220
Gustav Genschow in Koenigsberg

m4220
26 February 2015, 11:14
ALF
The Rifle is not a Funk, nor is it a Gustav Genschow. Genschow did have a munitions factory in Koenigsberg but they operated under the GECO mark
Genschow rifles were built by other makers and not themselves. Their rifles were marked as GG and co or Geco (Zella Mehlis, Liege and Suhl) Their proof mark was a GG in a rombus.

The Waggonfabrik L. Steinfurt in Koenigberg had a waffenampt mark of GGK.

They did build Mauser military rifles but the factory was destroyed at the end of the war and Koenigsburg became part of Russia after the war and the name was changed.
26 February 2015, 11:41
m4220
Alf,
See Dietrich Appels site germanhuntingguns.com
trademarks page, about 5th row down on the right side. Exact trademark as displayed on this gun.
http://germanhuntingguns.com/S...asp?SSID=580&NRID=16
Most likely made by someone else & retailed by Genschow under their trademark.

m4220
26 February 2015, 20:56
fla3006
Stokes, check your PM for Jon's email address.


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