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French LMG 1924 modified 1929, dated April 1940
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Posts: 157610 | Location: Ukraine, Europe. | Registered: 12 October 2002Reply With Quote
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Edmond,

You certainly come up with some superbly interesting militaria. Are you a dealer or just a wealthy collector?

I didn't know it was possible to collect such things anywhere in Europe. Wow.


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It is not possible to collect select fire weapons except when deactivated and only a handful of pros have the MoD agreement for this category. Having this agreement allowed me to open my wallet to purchase these toys.
 
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Front trigger= semi automatic fire
rear trigger= full auto


An historical note, the LMG Chatellerault 24/29 known here as FM 24/29 its official name and commonly refered among vets as 24/29 set up the trend for a whole new class of weapons and its tactical use. The Bren is directly linked to the 24/29 through the czech ZB 26.

Vaclav Holek's LMG,"Praja mdel 24" was designed at the Brno factory, created in 1922 with French financial and technical assistance.

The forerunner of the ZB26 was designed by the Holek brothers assisted by MM, Marek, Podradsky and a team of French.

The post WW1 conflicts saw a wide use of the french CSRG 1915 Chauchat after France supported Finland, Poland and Czechoslovakia. Thousands of them were used by Finland and Poland in combat. They were given with billions of rounds and french instructors trained their new users.
 
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It may be significant historically and mechanically, but that really is one homely firearm.

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Eric


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Edmond,
I'm asking something here I probably should not but did not the Vietnamese make copies of some of these? I know they made a LOT of MAT 49's but in 7.62X25MM - but that is another story for another day, eh?


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They did not make MAT 49, they made barrels in 7.62 x 25 for the MAT 49 they took in combat.
They did not make LMG 24/29.

They received Bren LMGs that were converted in 7.62 x 39 in China, those Bren were sent to PRC from various countries by guerillas who took them in combat.
at the end of the 60's, PRC got them back from the North Vietnamese and supplied RPK and RPD, the Bren were rearsenaled and supplied to the militias in China for territorial defense in large quantities along with Type 68 carbines and seized M16 that were withdrawn once ammo stock was depleted.

I could spend some time there at the beginning of the 80's and used the Bren in 7.62 x 39, it is almost like shooting a rimfire. the weapons were modified to use the AK 56 magazines, the first generation modification was a bushing in original barrel that was rechambered in 7.62 x 39 after plugging this bushing in an enlarged .303 chamber and the extractor and bolt face were slighty modified.
The rearsenaled Bren had a new barrel.
I have pictures somewhere.
 
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After 1945, all the 24/29 were parkerized, pictures of Indochina.





 
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Aren't French Arms pictures of loveliness. Big Grin ugliness must be right up there with utility as a requirement.
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Originally posted by Edmond:
Front trigger= semi automatic fire
rear trigger= full auto
I was going to ask. Amazing design.




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Personally I think the two triggers is an excellent idea, giving immediate selection between semi and full auto fire.

Kinda like the two finger position trigger on the German MG34...


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or the "bi grillo" (double trigger) on the Beretta SMGs.
 
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Exactly.


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