It sounded so promising. But HK is not offering it to the civilian market, and it seems the Pentagon lost interest. ???

Thre Norwegian Armed Forces adopted it, first 1000 rifles + to the Army and Airforce, Navy elite forces and special forces . And then the National Guard IRF and Special forces will have the rifles, also the HK 417 has been adopted as a DSM rifle .

I would have thought that had they offered it in a civilian (semi-auto) version it would have done very well. Wonder what the reason is they didn't? Certainly HK can come up with the production capacity.

I thought they were going to offer a civilian version ? Best check is www.hkpro.com

Before the S.H.O.T. show there were rumors that they were going to announce a civilian version. Then they didn't. Now there are more rumors of a civilian version in the relatively close future.

There might be something political like military brass not wanting to adopt a "civilian design", but conversely it would be ok for HK to sell civilians a "military design".

Turkey adopts the HK 416 to replace its aging G3.

Then they are more advanced than the U.S. Army! (at least in terms of an infantry rifle)

It's not the infantry rifle the U.S. is unhappy with, it's the M4 carbine as it can't handle the long range shots, not enough bullet energy left for one.

It looks pretty much like the FN-SCAR is going to take it's place.

I heard the FN SCAR did not do too hot in a dust-reliability test. Out of 7000 rounds fired, 850 jams in the M4 and 650 jams in the FN SCAR.

0 for the FA MAS.

Also 0 for the AK47, and 400 for the M14.

From the HKPRO website...

3.14.2008: HK DEBUTS CIVILIAN 416 AT IWA, THE MR223! AS NEWS BROKE HERE LAST YEAR OF THE CIVILIAN LEGAL RIFLES FOR GERMAN CONSUMPTION, THE MR223 IS DISPLAYED WITH A FACT SHEET THAT SAYS THE GUN WILL ACCEPT STANDARD CAPACITY MAGAZINES. THE FOUNDATION IS BEING LAID FOR CIVILIAN LEGAL 416'S IN THE UNITED STATES, AND SEEMS TO BE PROGRESSING NICELY.

500grains,

Can you reveal your source for the testing you reported in your previous posts? thanks

Joe

SM, a fellow in the LEO community who was in the loop on the test results and repeated them to me. If I had a link, I would post it.

Thanks 500...as anymore becomes available please do post it.

Joe

I actually have a source for them, civilian model, anyone interested in purchase pm me.

Perry

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Originally posted by perry:
I actually have a source for them, civilian model, anyone interested in purchase pm me.

Perry

Perry, I pm'ed you for your source.