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My New 1909 Argentine
21 September 2007, 06:11
BMRMy New 1909 Argentine
I just won this rifle from an online auction last week for $620. Even though I may have paid a bit more than I probably should have, I've always wanted one of these and they are getting harder to come by. This one may very well may be unissued. All the screws are perfect, all numbers match, including the cleaning rod, the blueing is at about 98%, the bore is absolutely mirror bright perfect, the fire blued small parts are perfect, and the bolt face does not have a mark on it. Also, the magazine and bolt were full of cosmoline, so unlesss it was issued and then repacked with cosmoline, it's never been fully cleaned. I can't wait to shoot this old 1910-made rifle!
And here it is next to my 1905 CG Swede, also with all matching numbers, except for the cleaning rod:
21 September 2007, 08:36
juanpozzicongratulations you have one of the best rifles ever made i have several argentine 1909 and they are the best of the best ,Juan
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21 September 2007, 16:43
El DeguelloBelieve me, those are SUPERB rifles as-issued! Very accurate, and the 7.65X53 is an excellent cartridge. I urge you to leave the rifle as- issued! Those still in military garb are rapidly disappearing! Mine shoots very well with .308" bullets.
This group was shot at 100 meters with .308", 200-grain Sierra and Nosler Partition bullets and a load of IMR 4350. Norma 7.65X53mm brass.
"Bitte, trinks du nicht das Wasser. Dahin haben die Kuhen gesheissen."
21 September 2007, 16:44
EdmondBravo! A real beauty!
21 September 2007, 16:50
BMRquote:
Originally posted by El Deguello:
Believe me, those are SUPERB rifles as-issued! Very accurate, and the 7.65X53 is an excellent cartridge. I urge you to leave the rifle as- issued! Those still in military garb are rapidly disappearing! Mine shoots very well with .308" bullets.
This group was shot at 100 meters with .308", 200-grain Sierra and Nosler Partition bullets and a load of IMR 4350. Norma 7.65X53mm brass.
Oh, believe me, there is not a snowball's chance that I would ever chop this classic!
I have never seen a production rifle that equals this in terms of fit and finish. The wood to metal fit is just flawless, and there are no machining marks on it. Also, that bright blue on the small parts is so cool - I can't imagine why in a military rifle the manufacturer would add this touch, but it sure is nice.
I've got some Norma 150's coming in a couple of days. At their published velocity of 2920 fps, it beats the .308 by about 100 fps and actually comes real close to the '06. I'm curious to see just how high above point of aim it shoots at 100 yards.
21 September 2007, 21:37
hacksawtomYou think you paid too much? Try this one on! How much do you think it woulod cost to make that rifle today? You've got one of the smoothest actions, beautifully finished, rifles ever fielded. Well at least that's what I told my wife when I brought mine home!
P.S. It worked!
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21 September 2007, 21:45
BMRThat's what I told my wife, too! At first she was a little ticked that I got it. I was the high bidder until about the last day, then someone jumped significantly over me, until I outbid him by $10 and it stayed that way for several hours. I thought, no way am I going to win this, as the auctioneer told me when I called to inquire about it that he'd received more calls on it than any other gun. When I did win, I had mixed emotions, but happiness at finally getting one trumped my feeling of guilt. My wife actually thinks it's pretty cool now.
I would imagine to build one of this quality nowadays would run probably three times what I paid.
21 September 2007, 22:45
ireload2Well you need a Preuvian 1909 and a Chilean 1895 to go with it. They will match it for workmanship.
Plus the Peruvian says
Mauser Original
across the top of the receiver ring.
21 September 2007, 23:12
BMRquote:
Originally posted by ireload2:
Well you need a Preuvian 1909 and a Chilean 1895 to go with it. They will match it for workmanship.
Plus the Peruvian says
Mauser Original
across the top of the receiver ring.
I know - those are the two exact ones I want next. When I got my Swede I told myself that I'd be satisfied owning one Mauser. It hasn't turned out that way.
22 September 2007, 04:39
390ishI had a friend give a 1909 Argentine that he claims was never fired. Does not appear to have been fired. I guess they ran a few at the factory way back when. Even the brass muzzle cap number matches. The bayo does not match. That and a Savage 99 featherweight in 358 win are my only two safe queens. I can't bring myself to shoot them.
22 September 2007, 20:57
ForrestBBMR, that Argy is a beautiful rifle. Give it a few years and you'll laugh at yourself for thinking you might have paid too much.
$620 is a joke compared to what it would cost to build that rifle today. You probably couldn't find someone to replicate the rear sight for less than $600.
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22 September 2007, 22:24
El DeguelloI paid $350.00 for mine
in 1980! Yours was a bargain!
"Bitte, trinks du nicht das Wasser. Dahin haben die Kuhen gesheissen."
22 September 2007, 23:13
BMRThanks for the kind words on the rifles, guys. Does anyone know about how high this rifle will shoot with Norma 150's at 100 yards? I believe somewhere I read 4" high.
23 September 2007, 05:42
D HumbargerI paid 200.00 apiece for these Argentines about 20 years asgo & 350.00 for the Peruvian several years later. Never regreted it for a minute!
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23 September 2007, 06:06
delloronot too much if you really wanted it.
BTW all it needs is nome cold blue....
