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M1 Garland vs M1 Tanker questions
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I have recently come across an M1 Tanker in 308 Win. I am unfamiliar with these rifles and looking for information. Here are my questions
1) who made these rifles and when were they made.
2) does the 308 Win use the same N block clip as the normal M1
3) are the actions the same
4) are there problems with these rifles
Any further info will be appreciated
 
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First, realize that NO Tankers were ever issued by a US Armory; they were just made for testing.
So, look on the receiver and you will see who made it; if it is a GI receiver, it was assembled that way by someone like Federal Ord, and the like. Might be a reweld.
Also Springfield Armory (the one in Geneseo) made them on new receivers.
Yes they use the same clips. They sometimes have a magazine well block but that is not necessary for functioning; only to prevent insertion of a cal .30 clip of ammo.
The receivers are the same.
Problems arise from the 308 conversion; the gas port is much bigger to function; from .079 to about .100 or so.
I have built them but do not like them; much prefer the fun length. Tankers do not need them; we had the M3 SMG. I was in a few tank units.
 
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Check out www.shuffsparkerizing.com He makes a shortened version he calls the "Mini G". He also talks about the pitfalls and issues with shortened versions commonly know as "Tankers".
 
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The designer was John Garand. No L.
 
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Thank you. I will stay away from them. Lots of knowledge here. Lots of great people too.
 
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Yes, just get a long one, in 308 if you want. I have built many and they work fine.
 
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DPCD, I have a question re: those Tanker Garands. I have one, and one part of your very good multi-part answer is of particular interest to me. It has to do with the size of the gas port in the rifle's barrel. When these rifles were converted (the one I have is almost certainly a conversion - .308 from Nat'l Ord El Monte CA) did those doing the conversions leave the ports at the M1 size? If not they would have had to replace the barrel w/a barrel with a smaller gas port, would that be correct? I'm asking because I was wondering if a Schuster valve would be a good idea here.
 
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All "Tankers" were/are conversions.
 
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Originally posted by craig48:
All "Tankers" were/are conversions.


30/06 converted to .308 with an insert is what he might be talking about.

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Yes, exactly.
 
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I've got a Schuster valve installed in the rifle, next range date will see if using that to vary how much gas is in the cylinder helps w/the feed problem. Otherwise it might be because that .308 round, which is shorter than the .30-06, has to climb a little more steeply out of the 8-round clip to enter the chamber and might be having some problems on account of that.
 
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