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1936 Mauser?????
12 September 2007, 00:30
TrapperP1936 Mauser?????
OK, I need some help here! I just became the owner of a 98 Mauser variant I'm not familiar with. This thing is an FN, chambered for 30/06 and is marked as being 'Peruvian.' I am not familar with this variant and wonder how rare, how much, etc. Anyone want to comment?
Lord, give me patience 'cuz if you give me strength I'll need bail money!!
'TrapperP'
12 September 2007, 05:13
D HumbargerSounds as though you have either a 1909 Peruvian (originally 7.65MM Argentine) that has been rechambered to 30/06 or a M1935 Peruvian that was originally 30/06. Can you post photos of the action ?
Doug Humbarger
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12 September 2007, 08:31
ForrestBFN made the '35 Peruvians. The 1909's have Mauser Werke Oberndorf markings on the side. I don't know anything about the value of the FN Peruvians (sorry). Now, if it were a 1909 Peruvian, I'd be giving you a call.
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Francis Bacon
12 September 2007, 08:35
ForrestBI found this online at:
http://www.fn-browning.com/fn.htmquote:
FN had a FN 1935 Mauser!?
Another great misconception is that many claim that FN had a 1935 Mauser model.
FN never adopted this as a factory designation; it was solely the model designation of their customer. As such, the Peruvian rifle is not a FN Model 1935 but rather a Peruvian 1935, the same is valid for the Belgian military 1935 (both rifles are totally different from one another). Both designations are military designations and are not FN designations. FN did indeed print literature and manuals in Spanish for their Peruvian customer. The Peruvian Mauser is referred to as ‘Modelo 1935’, just as it is on the rifle. These designations are references to the Peruvian designation. FN often printed up literature for their customers and included the customer’s requests as happened in this case.
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Francis Bacon
12 September 2007, 14:24
TrapperPquote:
Originally posted by D Humbarger:
Sounds as though you have either a 1909 Peruvian (originally 7.65MM Argentine) that has been rechambered to 30/06 or a M1935 Peruvian that was originally 30/06. Can you post photos of the action ?
Can, and will - try to get pictures made and posted tonight.
Lord, give me patience 'cuz if you give me strength I'll need bail money!!
'TrapperP'
16 September 2007, 01:42
Matt NormanTrapper P, is it in original miltary configuration? I have one of the 1935 Peruvians and they are kind of unique in that the 'flag' safety is opposite of all the other Mausers; i.e., the bolt is locked when the safety is to the left.
17 September 2007, 14:36
TrapperPquote:
Originally posted by Matt Norman:
Trapper P, is it in original miltary configuration? I have one of the 1935 Peruvians and they are kind of unique in that the 'flag' safety is opposite of all the other Mausers; i.e., the bolt is locked when the safety is to the left.
I can see no difference in the safety on this rifle and any of the other Mausers I looked at - full right to fire, straight up to 'Safe' but bolt works, etc., and full left, 'safe' and everything locked up. Rifle is "As Issued" and is 30/06 - front of receiver bridge has a small relief cut to clear the nose of bullets when rifle is charged with stripper clips. Crest is nice and crisp, something in Peruvian that I did not write down. Overall, I would say the piece is about 85% re finish, etc. with some blue left.
Here are some photos - not very good but best I can do with my camera.
The rifle is a 'Modelo 1935' and all S/N's match as far as I can see. Have a look:
Sorry that I can't get a decent picture of the crest etc - I do have one of the Fabrique National stamp but don't want to post it as the S/N shows up with it.
What do you think of the beastie?
Lord, give me patience 'cuz if you give me strength I'll need bail money!!
'TrapperP'
17 September 2007, 18:36
D HumbargerM1935 Peruvian. Nice piece. Great find. If you are going to just use the action I would be interested in the stock & barrel.
Doug Humbarger
NRA Life member
Tonkin Gulf Yacht Club 72'73.
Yankee Station
Try to look unimportant. Your enemy might be low on ammo.
17 September 2007, 18:59
TrapperPquote:
Originally posted by D Humbarger:
M1935 Peruvian. Nice piece. Great find. If you are going to just use the action I would be interested in the stock & barrel.
Sorry but I have no plans to cut it up. My next project piece is a 1917 Enfield (Winchester) but can't decide what I want it to be in it's next life - probably will have a big hole, tho. Thought long and hard about the 9.3X62 but think I want something bigger.
Lord, give me patience 'cuz if you give me strength I'll need bail money!!
'TrapperP'
19 September 2007, 00:42
PfeiferNice rifle! Looks like it has the same(?) high charger hump of the 1909 Peruvian. I have a 1935 Argentine receiver that I read (Ball?) was also made by FN. I'll see if I can get a picture taken and posted. Mine was just a stripped receiver when I got it so no idea of what the correct bolt may have looked like. I've got an Oberndorf bolt in it now with some 1909 Arg bottom metal.
Jeff P
20 September 2007, 07:50
Matt NormanTrapper P, like I said, the flag safety on the 1935 is opposite of what all the other Mauser bolt actions of the world are.
Page 250, Robert W.D.Ball book
'Mauser Military Rifles of the World' (Third Edition)
Page 161, Ludwig Olson book 'Mauser Bolt Rifles' (Third Edition).
On all the other Mauser rifles of the world full left is fire, full right is safe/locked. On the 1935 Peruvian full right is fire, full left is safe/locked
P.S. The same books indicate that these were originally obtained from FN in 7.65 caliber and then converted over to 30-06 in the late 40's